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If you have an iPhone just use the Apple Health app. It works great and the data is encrypted and never shared with anyone.
Wrong, Apple Health fails to include a libre software license text file. We do not control it, anti-libre software. Does Apple really think we are this easy to scam? Others here have given a solution.
Not wrong. You're arguing a different point than what they said.
Already trapped in iOS? More anti-libre apps make escape harder.
I don't disagree with that, but the point here was freedom from advertisers and general data privacy, not data portability.
But there is an "export all data" feature in health, though.
Lol sure apple doesnt use that data internally. /s
Yes, probably someone would like to, but they can't.
I don't know anything about health app in particular, but they posted some cool methods for finding highlight photos in your library using what they call "differential privacy" on their research blog.
https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/scenes-differential-privacy
Read my first comment again.
Read the original comment again.
What fact did I get wrong? Be specific.
Anti-libre software, Apple Health, bans us from proving this and worse, bans us from fixing it. We do not control it. 🚩 Others here have already given a solution.
And which phone has a libre radio baseband? Perhaps extremism ad absurdum is not useful advice.
Getting an app like drip, libre software, is not 'extremism'. lmao
I didn’t realize those were baseband firmwares. Neat!
Some people never learn.
What baseband firmware do you use? And who maintains that firmware?
How does this fix our menstrual apps?
Apple already fixed it years ago when they released iOS 12.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/111755
Can you name a phone that has open source basebands that has a FLOSS license attached to it? Surely if you're arguing against apple, you are not using a phone that has proprietary blobs in the firmware.
Wrong, as shown above, Apple Health fails to include a libre software license text file. We do not control it, anti-libre software.
'Open source' misses the point of libre software.
Can you name a phone that has libre hardware as an alternative?
How does trapping ourselves in yet another anti-libre app, like Apple Health, help escape anti-libre software or hardware devices?
If libre apps run on proprietary hardware, is it really under your control?
Does Drip, a libre app, move towards or away from solving this?
It doesn't move at all. If your hardware is compromised, then it doesn't matter what apps or software you run, right? Its not under your control.
So which phone has libre baseband firmware?
You want us doing nothing at all unless we get perfect freedom and privacy?
No, we’re simply using the same logic as you and not letting perfect be the enemy of good. Telling people to use the built in app on the most popular platform because it has infinitely better privacy than all the apps with ads is objectively good advice. My grandma doesn’t know what f-droid is. She doesn’t even know what an operating system is. She also doesn’t know what a software license is.
You have failed to tell her. Shows how little you're doing to fix this.
Libre software is not perfect. Fake privacy is bad.
So we don't have perfect privacy?