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I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

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[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 14 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

As a long time Zelda fan I never understood any of the hate for BOTW from other long time fans. That being said I haven't been able to play it since TOTK came out because TOTK is what BOTW was missing for me.

[–] kartoffelsaft@programming.dev 12 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

From seeing discussions among those Zelda fans (which to be clear I am not one), the issue is that the mainline games are now a completely different genre, but treated as though it's the natural progression of the series.

The classic zelda games are primarily puzzle games, with a little bit of combat and intricate hand-crafted exploration to spice it up a bit. The modern zelda games (BOTW & TOTK) are exploration games with puzzles to spice it up. If you were a classic zelda fan, the niche genre you loved used to have regular releases by a major developer and now doesn't.

Plus, there's a "all my homies hate skrillex" effect here; the series is massively more popular now, but the newcomers have a different idea of what makes a zelda game a zelda game. By sheer numbers they dominate a community that is now reshaped by their presence. In other words the zelda fan community is itself a different genre.

For what it's worth, I haven't played that much of the series. Link to the Past I didn't care much for, Links Awakening (new one) I honestly hated, and BOTW I liked but had a couple issues with. All I've written above is based on passively seeing a bunch of discussion.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago

Plus, there's a "all my homies hate skrillex" effect here; the series is massively more popular now, but the newcomers have a different idea of what makes a zelda game a zelda game.

This is wht I don't play Warframe anymore. I started back when crowd control was crucial, and played Nyx almost constantly. But after Mesa was added, the game slowly shifted to being more focussed on killing enemies as fast as possible. I finally quit the game from a combination of the mods going crazy and newer players berating me in chat for playing as Nyx despite me dealing most of the damage in the mission we were playing.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 5 points 23 hours ago

Tears is better than Breath in every way, it's true. It's also more Zelda-like, in that you gradually expand your ability to explore the world.