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[–] tofubl@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

We found more common ground and more things that separate us, too.

I agree with your idea of regulating social media and I'd add that platforms should be mandated to open their walled gardens by implementing open protocols and force them to play nice with other platforms (said the guy on Lemmy.)

On the other hand, I strongly disagree with the notion that an addiction only hurts the addict. I'd argue that's never the case. On the contrary, alcoholism or gambling can drag whole families or more into poverty. On top of the microcosm impact, albeit more of a European problem, I suppose (although I wouldn't want it any other way), substance-related addictions are a huge cost factor on our social health system, costing the public hand (us, me) huge sums and taking up ever scarcer hospital beds and treatment slots. Here comes my main point: History (especially yours with the prohibition period) proves that outlawing substances doesn't work, and neither am I for it. But our minds are vulnerable to suggestion and manipulation, and advertisement is utilising that fact by e.g., creating associations between drinking or smoking and sexual desirability. This is well known and it works too, or it wouldn't be the enormous industry it is. Now then, why should we allow the manipulation of our desires for something that is ultimately bad for EVERY part of society except the leeches directly profiteering from it? (I'm not even talking about the fact that children's minds are even more susceptible to this, but are for the most part just as exposed to the same stimuli our adult ones are. One of the restrictions for wine/beer ads here in my country, by the way: Not on daytime TV. Somewhat sensible at least.)

I wonder why you draw the line at medicine, by the way. What's the difference there for you?

Edit: Thanks for the respectful discussion, by the way. I appreciate it.