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Basically this. So translating from corporate to human they see their business model is stagnating ?
How did you get that? They’re just consolidating their pricing tiers. There was an $8 one and a $12 one, now there is only $10. Smack bang in the middle.
They say they haven’t increased their prices in 6 years. That doesn’t mean their prices have stayed the same, oh no - that means that their prices have decreased over that time due to not keeping up with the massive inflation since then.
It's not $10. It's 10%.
Percentage is inflation proof. They did not decrease anything over time.
10%, $10, doesn’t matter.
Percentage isn’t inflation proof. Them taking a percentage only means it increases with inflation if the thing they’re taking a percentage of does too.
Fairly certain what you describe is what they meant with inflation proof, compared to a fixed price.
In any case, I imagine most Patreon creators have over time adjusted their reward tiers, or gathered more Patreon supporters to keep up with how Inflation affects their costs, thus giving more to Patreon. Both the company and creators would benefit here.
Instead, increasing the (average) percentage just helps the company at the cost of creators. To make their pay keep up with inflation, they still need to either increase the number of supporters or the price of rewards, so the company benefits doubly. Edit: forgot, this change is currently only for new creators. Existing accounts do not need to adjust their pricing (yet)
There seem to be enough alternatives that only charge a 5% fee, so this might just lose Patreon money if enough Creators see this as a step too far.
They wrote that in their message.
So how does that indicate that their business model is stagnating?
I assume new users get lower chance to get high donations. I found this chart today https://graphtreon.com/patreon-stats, not sure how legit it is but it just proves that they are not rapidly growing anymore.
Not growing at an absurd rate doesn’t mean their business model is stagnating.