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[–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] hraegsvelmir@ani.social 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wouldn't rule that out, but I also wouldn't jump straight to that conclusion. Spanish news media in this country is beyond screwed, it skews even more right-wing as a rule than English mainstream media, in my opinion. During the 2020 election, I would watch the news on Univision with my mother-in-law sometimes, and would see them just not translate something a democrat said in English that didn't fit their agenda, misrepresent what they said in the translation, or selectively omit things they said to make their remarks sound much more sinister and authoritarian than what they actually said. They were also constantly pushing right-wing conspiracies that had been debunked weeks or months prior, with no mention of their having been disproven.

I would constantly have my mother-in-law coming to me asking about these old ass conspiracies, because with her only knowing Spanish, that would be the first time she heard of them, and she was shocked we weren't freaking out about it.

More leaning to the morons side, despite how Fox likes to portray immigrants as a monolithic group of rabid socialist and commies backing the Dems so they can destroy the constitution and get gulags up and running, a lot of immigrants from Latin America, Africa and the Caribbean have been fairly conservative, in my experience. A lot of them grew up heavily propagandized by right wing regimes in their home countries, many are much more religious than your average American by birth, and others have had negative experiences with nominally left-wing regimes in their home country that they can't get over. The last one can be kind of understandable, but the other two drive me crazy.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

My parents escaped Communist Yugoslavia to Australia. Even I started off right wing until about age 30. Therein I voted Greens (not like the dodgy US Greens BTW) and after a while convinced my parents too.

I am still aware of how the extreme left can become authoritarian as happened in Yugoslavia. Tankies are oblivious. Need to be vigilant whichever party you side with.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

i take issue with calling tankies left, them saying they're leftists doesn't make it true. "nazi" comes from "national socialist", but that's obviously not what they actually were.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

Am not sure that any label can really work perfectly anyhow. I posed to an Australian Greens Senator in the pub the following:

If Greens ever become one of the two major parties then the ruthless power seekers will gravitate towards your party instead of the current major parties. How will the party be able to spot the wolves in sheep's clothing?

His answer was "I don't know. We discuss that often."

Which struck me as the response of an honest and genuine person.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 5 points 23 hours ago

Seems like we need some left leaning Spanish outlets

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

This is harsh but it definitely seems like a fundamental lack of critical thinking. I genuinely have trouble understanding this behavior otherwise.