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[–] Zak@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It makes me suspect they’re not talking about the stock systems OEMs ship.

The developers of GrapheneOS, an independent, security-oriented Android distribution are probably not only talking about stock OEM Android. What they're saying is true about stock OEM android though.

That's a separate issue from whether users are forced to get all their software from a specific source, which is also separate from whether users will actually use other sources when given the option.

On Android, developers can offer users a way to install an app that isn't easily traced to their identity and on iOS they can't. Furthermore, an Android app can be both on the Play store and available from other sources; there's no exclusivity.

[–] Enkimaru@lemmy.world -2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You got that "tracked to their identity" opposite around. The reason why there is no Android App is, if the phone gets "found" the data about the user/owner is an open book.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

This is not one of the claims made by the ICEBlock developers; their claims are only to do with notifications.

If you want to claim that a locked Android device is substantially easier for law enforcement to break in to than a locked iPhone, please cite up-to-date (from 2025) sources.