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I think this every single time I see news about that website. Like what the fuck is possibly on there that justifies using that piece of shit platform? Insanity.
This sketch was about Facebook but it's also relevant to Twitter
Actually more relevant now, considering the ending
"Go to the site where Nazi's scream at you". It's talking about moving from facebook to twitter.
Well the punchline to that sketch is "instead of FB, just do what I do: Go to the site where nazis scream at you!" just might be that twitter reference you said was missing.
That was painful.
Non-fediverse social media is designed to be addictive because that's how the people running it make money.
What do you mean non-fediverse? How does Federation affect addictiveness?
That's easy. It's more dull here, and there's less lock-in.
No, really. Social media without the dopamine-pump-style algorithm behind it is far less stimulating. Meanwhile, the Federation model itself allows us to abandon nodes that are co-opted by bad actors. So there's always somewhere else to go with all your favorite stuff when things go sour.
Algorithmically curated timelines are designed to be addictive. Fediverse doesn't have that, it's time based, like it used to be before.
It CAN be time based, but there's also a "hot" and an "active" sorting. Both of which are "algorithms".
It's a lot more simple of an algorithm, and doesn't intentionally push specific topics, but if you open https://lemmy.world/ anonymously, you'll see a default "All/Active" feed which is sorted by engagement.
Oh ok, sorry. I wasn't aware that the fediverse restricted algorithms
It does not restrict them per se, it's just that the mechanics of what to show you are either simply based on posting time, or amount of "interactions" or "interactions/time" or similar simple algorithms. It would be possible to analyze posts for specific content and show you for example ragebait only, but i doubt that pull request would be accepted - you would probably have to make a fork of your fediverse platform and implement it there.
I am also addicted to the fediverse.
Freebasing that fedi
I guess for me the stench of the people are counteracting the near heroin addictiveness of the fediverse
You can mimic the feel of Twitter by taking reddit threads and cutting them at the most popular reply (Reddit already does this), and then reversing the order. Now the "best" content is front and center and the conversation / context is in the background. Users don't have to go through the tediousness of a discussion before experiencing the sheer joy of a witty response. The emotions come faster and more consistently.
There's just a lot less activity on the alternatives. Especially if you're trying to follow niche interests.
Obviously, I left, but I get how barren it can feel when the latest post about a hobby of yours is 3 days old, instead of 3 minutes.
People use it for the same reason they use Truth Social.
Unfortunately I think people don’t care how the sausage is made. It has porn and ~~racist~~ edgy memes so they’ll keep coming back.
half of the users are probably porn OF accounts, i wonder if any of them actually divested from x. we know meta doesnt allow porn of any kind.
People. Lots of people. Including Doctor Cory Doctorow and Molly White.
Cory Doctorow is on mastodon, just like Molly White
We were talking about Xitter, not Mastodon...
and we are talking about reasons why people are still there - those two aren't one, because you can read their posts somewhere else too. Except if you meant that people are still there because those two are still there.
You're missing the point. Ask yourself why those people are still there.
Hey, mastodon isn't that bad! When bluesky runs out of funny money and has to enshittify it'll be the one left standing!
Once again, not talking about Mastodon
It seems that multiple people don't get what you are trying to say, and i would really like to know. if you have the time, could you elaborate?
I honestly don't know how to be more clear. It's called a social graph. The most important thing about a social network, above everything else (for normies), is having lots of users. Cory and Molly both know and understand that if they left Xitter, they would lose access to a substantial amount of their audience, so they both stay, despite being some of the platform's harshest critics and the biggest supporters of it's alternatives. That's the answer to the question "why would anyone use it?". The social graph.
but the only way to break through this is to change the platform. Since both of them already keep their posts equal on both sites, it makes switching easier for everyone; removing their content from Xitter would be an incentive for others to switch.
The ideal way would be to try and band together a large amount of "regular posters" and completely switch on an agreed date together; that would have a pull effect for others to do the same.
I wasn't trying to make any sort of argument why they should be doing that, only why they are.