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Things like large 1” camera sensors, SiC batteries that offer 6-8k mAh, and other cool tech that would improve phones a lot. It’s not just Chinese brands either (e.g. Sony has an optical zoom camera on their flagship, Nothing has some excellent budget to midrange offerings).

It seems really weird, Apple/Samsung/Google are massive companies with so much money, yet they don’t try to offer this kind of tech on even their most expensive phones. In contrast, other phone makers have budget to midrange phones with insane battery capacities, Ultra models with innovative cameras, etc.

To me, it makes sense that Apple isn’t offering these kinds of things. They’re already extremely profitable and have the whole walled garden ecosystem that draws people in. Google focuses more on software rather than hardware, and their cameras are helped by software magic.

What surprises me is that Samsung isn’t trying to get better hardware to get more market share. If they had huge SiC batteries, large camera sensors, or other cool tech, it would definitely help sway buyers from Apple and other brands.

Especially since Samsung is struggling against both Chinese competition and, to a lesser extent, Indian competition. And in the U.S., they certainly want to steal market share from Apple.

What is with the reluctance of these massive tech companies from using the latest tech in their phones?

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[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 16 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Ask any apple fanboy/fanatic and they will tell you, and they will be correct: Apple rarely leads the charge. They wait and they bide their time, and they watch how a technology is applied and how it works well and how it fails, and then they engineer a solution that they believe to be a smoother user experience to everyone else, and only then do they drop a new tech.

Budget phone makers are trying to stand out and captivate a much smaller market segment, so they have to go big or go home, or else no one will care.

The big guys are so big that they can actually use the market itself as market research, and the big guys are so big they can hold out until they know they have a stable, proven solution.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

Didn't they just kill that big 3d glasses after like 5 years everyone else and their dog did 3d glasses and gave up?

In Jobs time there was this perception that Apple does everything perfect. Then he dies and the perception stayed. It was never true, but now it's so much further from truth. Charging mouse from the underside is plain stupid.

[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

:cough: AI :cough:

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

they engineer a solution that they believe to be a smoother user experience

You had me until this bit. I support my mom and the iPhone she got instead of an android. I have no idea how to use this thing, and she's the mother of 2.5 nerds. This swishy swoopy UI is so bad it's toxic.

But I think that's just a young and sparkle-addicted product management team who forgets that they need to sell to their market and who believe they know better.

[–] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 1 points 35 minutes ago

I've had the same issue every time I've tried helping someone with an Android phone. I kind of figured it's because it's not what I'm used to so it seems foreign.

I had an Android work phone for a while and I got more comfortable with it because I was using the UI regularly.

My parents switched from Android to Apple and they've both said they find the iPhone easier to navigate; they're both ~70 years old.

Personally, I think that Android and Apple appeal to different personalities with different needs and that people are naturally resistant to change.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

that would be more believable if they didn't release the apple vision pro.

Or the years they took biding their time before they finally implemented battery charge time estimation on ios.

Or the time biding their time refining, erm, copy and paste?

Come on!

[–] jellygoose@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Copy paste has been available since iOS 3.0, launching alongside the iPhone 3GS.

I don’t know what you’re trying to say with the other two statements

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

three, point, oh

for copy and paste.

Not one, but three point oh!

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Cherry-picked examples are cherry-picked examples.

The trend still sticks

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago

what trend? they made thi ipod, they made the iphone, they've been late, really really late, for very basic features on either. And a bunch of just plain bad stuff.

Butterfly keyboards, magic mouse, touch bar on macs, not cherry picked at all. There are tons of examples