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[–] edent@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I agree with all this. The thing which caused me to uninstall was suddenly being pushed lots of abusive message with disturbing contents.

When I complained about it, Matrix told me that my public complaints were hurting the ecosystem and I should be quiet.

[–] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I had a wild ride with matrix, originally wanting to run a node on my server. That did not turn out well, because I was a bit stupid and just assumed there would be more admin/mod tools out of the box. As it turned out, I had inadvertently allowed spam/abuse accounts on my node without even noticing, because naive as I was, I assumed my admin-level account would get informed of stuff like user registrations and abuse reports in the standard Element frontend. As a bonus, when I checked what was supposedly the official matrix support channel, it was repeatedly getting spammed with CSAM and gore at the time. That was when I realised, that it definitely was not the ecosystem for me, and running a node without experience had been a pretty stupid idea on my end.

Yeah. I an hosting a homeserver for my ttrpg groups, but it doesn't have any federation enwbled at all, and sign ups are invite-only.

The amount of work needed to moderate a public instance, especially with the lacking tools available, seems crazy. Also, I don't love it that New Vector has an implementation for an admin console, that seems to be available exclusively for paying subscribers to the enterprise version of their element server suite.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago

The CSAM spam is so annoying. I don't understand who is doing this or why.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have to wonder if there is a major commercial interest in that though.

Not impossible, although, sadly - any system where anonymity is the prime focus will also invite fucked up shit in addition to legitimate use, without any complicated motives behind it. There's just a relevant fraction of humanity who are, sometimes essentially, sometimes temporarily, messed up fucks. Which is why I think providing ways to combat abuse has to be a high priority for the underlying development of any project like it, unless it explicitly doesn't aim for mainstream adoption.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

Oh fuck that culty nonsense!

[–] brunoqc@piefed.ca 10 points 3 days ago

When I complained about it, Matrix told me that my public complaints were hurting the ecosystem and I should be quiet.

Weird. I think they did some improvement to prevent those abusive messages but it took a while and it was embarrassing. Maybe it's hard to prevent them with a federated network but still, the abusive messages where basically a copy paste.