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[–] 001Guy001@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'm not from there but I'll say that The US doesn't intervene overseas in order "to spread democracy" or "to protect the world from the evils of communism" but to protect its economic interests, to increase the profits of capitalists through industries such as weapons and oil, and to make sure that no socialism occurs that threatens the stranglehold of capitalism.

Some books to check:

  • Major General Smedley D. Butler - War Is A Racket
  • Tim Weiner - Legacy Of Ashes: The History Of The CIA
  • William Blum - Killing Hope: US Military And CIA Interventions Since World War II
  • Noam Chomsky - What Uncle Sam Really Wants
[–] Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

To quote a popular bumper sticker: Be nice to America or we'll bring democracy to your country.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yea I guess the only thing to add is that any time it appears its helping democracy tends to be a side affect rather than the primary mission. IE Iraq, Sadam was a colossal piece of shit and I'm glad he's gone, but the whole Iraq war was an illegal war for oil.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

This.

American history books have whole chapters dedicated to the lead-up and aftermath of WW1 and WW2. You won't even get a paragraph about the lead up to the Vietnam war.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's a massive oversimplification. The US has always had active domestic politics and many competing factions driving it's policy.

What money did Afghanistan have?

[–] 001Guy001@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan

I'm sure there were other things/resources to extract/control there, but this is the one I know and remembered off the top of my head.

It's also a good place to do a real life test of (actual) weapons of mass destruction. A showroom of violence for potential buyers across the world.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There's some lapis lazuli I guess, but it's mostly a subsistence, agrarian-type economy. You'd be hard-pressed to show the US profiting from the opium; they actually destroyed quite a lot of the crops they could get their hands on. Just because of the amount of area it covers there's geological deposits of other things, but it's undeveloped.

It's an exceptionally poor, sparsely populated tract of dry steppe that's famous for baiting in and devastating empires. The US invaded to get Bin Laden, and then stayed because a critical mass of their elite genuinely wanted to fix it before going.

It’s also a good place to do a real life test of (actual) weapons of mass destruction. A showroom of violence for potential buyers across the world.

That's true of anywhere you want to blow up, so by that measure your goalpost is literally anything happening.