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[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 94 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Microsoft said this, but this likely applies to AWS and GCP too.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 19 hours ago

And OCI. Any US based company is subject to the CLOUD act.

[–] Gumus@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Check out Hetzner, a German cloud provider. Established, reliable and way cheaper than AWS.

I know migrating is nigh impossible for most large apps, but creating a new one on AWS/GCP/Azure is so shortsighted.

More people need to know about alternatives.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hetzner and reliable do not belong in the same sentence.

Cheap yes, reliable no.

I've been using them for my company a lot because of how cheap they are, but compared to other European competitors (like OVH) they are complete garbage. Their pricing is the only redeeming factor.

The Schwartz Group (parent company of Lidl) is currently building a German cloud platform, which sounds a lot more promising.

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 1 points 12 hours ago

Their storage for servers at least is stupidly expensive.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 5 points 20 hours ago

Lidl Web Services

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hetzner is really trashy though. They seem to suspend or permanently ban folks for no good reason.

https://tenforward.blog/hetzner-considered-hostile-a-psa/

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32318524

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn, they really go the extra mile for a full equivalent to googles offering.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 7 points 23 hours ago

Right?? Like some shit doesn't have to be part of the competition..

[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago

Color me skeptical of anything Deutsche Telekom. I'd rather look at OVH, Hetzner, and Scaleway than at something from Telekom.