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[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 149 points 21 hours ago (13 children)

There's no telling if that hasn't already happened. Europe needs to drop Microsoft ASAP.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 87 points 21 hours ago (9 children)

Microsoft said this, but this likely applies to AWS and GCP too.

[–] Gumus@lemmy.world 34 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Check out Hetzner, a German cloud provider. Established, reliable and way cheaper than AWS.

I know migrating is nigh impossible for most large apps, but creating a new one on AWS/GCP/Azure is so shortsighted.

More people need to know about alternatives.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Hetzner and reliable do not belong in the same sentence.

Cheap yes, reliable no.

I've been using them for my company a lot because of how cheap they are, but compared to other European competitors (like OVH) they are complete garbage. Their pricing is the only redeeming factor.

The Schwartz Group (parent company of Lidl) is currently building a German cloud platform, which sounds a lot more promising.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 hours ago

Lidl Web Services

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Hetzner is really trashy though. They seem to suspend or permanently ban folks for no good reason.

https://tenforward.blog/hetzner-considered-hostile-a-psa/

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32318524

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Damn, they really go the extra mile for a full equivalent to googles offering.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 6 points 10 hours ago

Right?? Like some shit doesn't have to be part of the competition..

[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 19 hours ago

Color me skeptical of anything Deutsche Telekom. I'd rather look at OVH, Hetzner, and Scaleway than at something from Telekom.

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