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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You're right when talking about the average person with nothing but their eyes. But there are tons of companies and members of the public that have bits of tech that would call that out easily. Solar panels, environmental logging equipment, etc, would notice the drop in light levels fairly easily, and would be apparent when reviewing historical vs current levels, and the power grids would definitely notice the sun dimming dropping their power outputs.

Without going into conspiracy theory territory, there's no realistic way to hide that from the public.

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Definitely, any changes natural or anthropogenic would be measured and to great accuracy. I just wanted to point out that the notion of the general public, especially if conditioned to distrust scientists and authorities, not noticing changes isn't the outlandish part. See global warming denial despite years of record setting temperatures.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I just wanted to point out that the notion of the general public, especially if conditioned to distrust scientists and authorities, not noticing changes isn't the outlandish part.

I figured, which is why I framed my comment the way I did. You may be able to discount the scientists, but can you discount them, plus citizens complaining about their solar output, power plants having to raise rates due to falling solar generation, crop impacts, and even just other citizens posting raw data all coming out with similar data over time saying it's a problem?

Having said that and looking at the state of climate change, I have a hard time not seeing the parallels against my argument. But falling solar output would have a much more immediate effect on us than climate change (and would likely reverse it to some extent).