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Ehm… you guys know that behind ~~all~~ many major VPN companies there’s the isræli government right?
EXPOSED: HOW ISRAELI SPIES CONTROL YOUR VPN
Okay. proceeds to check article
This is why you research the VPN provider prior to making your purchase, read their privacy policies, their EULA, their TOS, the companies history.
If it reads like the Bible skip over it.
ProtonVPN, iVPN and Mullvad have no association with this article whatsoever.
No, Proton specifically has no confirmed association, I agree. So I trust them? No. I see too many signs, too many people recommending it online, too many all-connected services. For me, this is a recipe for disaster and I’m not here to be lied to my face again.
Not the first time for the very neutral state
More info
I don’t know about you guys but this 👆 is enough for me.
If your concern is that the CIA owns Crypto AG you should take into consideration what their focus is on, are they focused on child predators and gangs or people torrenting movies and music?
Crypto AG and Proton have clashed in the past resulting in this article from Proton;
https://proton.me/blog/is-protonmail-trustworthy
In the header of this article you seemed to have glossed over:
If I present my legitimate concerns about companies being tampered by CIA with the complicity of a “”neutral”” country (since it already happened) and your reply is “Chillax bro, even if they are what do you have to hide? They are not looking for you!”
you either:
I’m just saying, I don’t trust companies, nobody should, especially when everything seems too good. I think we should always challenge them and replace them at their first mistake. Don’t they follow the glorious free and competitive market? Let em fight.
But we're not gonna tell you which ones!
Yeah, not good of them to not share that information.
But for anyone who's wondering, here's a decent article that goes over the shady companies that discretely own most VPNs apps.
Amusingly, and kind of in counterpoint to the guy who you replied to, this article concludes that Proton is actually a solid VPN option that isn't beholden to one of those sketchy VPN-hoarding companies. Though they don't talk about any Israeli influence in Proton TBF. But still, on a general level (excluding the Israel/Palestine thing), Proton seems like one of the better options.
They also recommend Mullvad as a good option. I've never used them, but I've seen mentioned positively in other articles about VPNs.
ETA: Clarity.
No, we don't know that. And neither do you.
Ehm… no i do.
Prove it
Justifiable concerns - luckily neither proton nor Mullvad are on that list.
I trust Mullvad just because they have been raided. That is the only real proof they don’t keep logs. Deloitte reports are toilet paper.
Proton? We should trust Andy. Ooook
its a shit article xD
i searched for a bit and even found a wiki article. the firm is kape technologies i guess?
"On September 13, 2021, Kape acquired ExpressVPN,[24][29] raising concerns based on Kape Technologies' predecessor Crossrider's history of making tools that were used for adware.[30][31][32][33]"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_Sagi#Kape_Technologies
i try to not use israeli tech or noneuro tech anyway and wasnt affected, but interesting to know nonetheless. data sovernity is important.