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I have got to admit I canned Spotify subs years ago - but how are they managing to grow their subscriber base whn it is now going to be £11.99 in the UK? That is way, way too high for what it offers...

https://www.gbnews.com/tech/spotify-price-rise

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 43 points 2 days ago (22 children)

Man, music is one of those things where file sizes, quality and performance all conspire to make both offline media and self-hosting so viable. I never understood Spotify's role.

I mean, you can like physical media and understand why Netflix was more convenient than digging through enormous TV DVD boxsets. But who the hell didn't have a MP3 dump of hudreds of CDs by the time Spotify started being a thing?

[–] freeman@feddit.org 26 points 2 days ago (7 children)

That is fascinating to me as well:

Movies > Big filesizes > many public trackers and seeders Music > smaller and easier to store/play > less public trackers, only slsk is really viable Books > even smaller > there are some websites like anna and a lot of small ones But then: Sheet music > even smaller files > almost impossible to pirate

It is fascinating to me that there isnt one clear spectum along filesize.

I guess it has to do with the target audience and demand.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (6 children)

There are a lot of reasons for this but mostly because music streaming has been so popular that it wiped out the market for music. Its also a huge pain in the ass to sort and organize music when nobody follows a standard when they rip music so it makes automating things a lot harder as well.

I have several thousand songs I've downloaded over the last 25 years but even with modern tools like MusicBrainz Picard or Lidarr, there's no good way to organize your collection. You wind up with a bunch of singles or oddball songs from a compilation album, from a sampler, or you download an album and half of the songs come from the US version while the other half is from a UK version of the album and the uploader forgot to include a bonus track that comes on that version. Its just a huge mess that you dont see with movies and TV because apart from things like a "Director's Cut" or "Extended Version," you know what you're getting when you download them.

Additionally, playback isnt easy either. Are you going to manually transfer hundreds of files to your phone? Stream from your home media server to your phone and use a bunch of bandwidth? You're getting tired of 30% of your songs so are you going to go through your collection one by one and erase them?

There's a huge convenience factor for services like Spotify. With movies and TV the convenience factor definitely favors the self-hosted side of things.

[–] lavendertea@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Re: Transferring, I bought a 1TB sd-card for my phone and use Syncthing to transfer music from desktop to phone.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nowadays people say it's advanced stuff for powerusers, but just a decade ago this was the way for everybody: download audio to your computer, sync some of it to mobile devices, listen on the go. Everybody did it, OSs had dedicated software that got activated as soon as you plugged the device in etc.

I hate the "convenience factor" or "non-technical user" arguments.

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