MudMan

I mean, they're doing it to everybody else, so...

According to YouTube, the video results carousel will use AI to highlight clips from videos that "will be most helpful for your search query," which essentially means that it will take clips from videos and play them right in results, so people may not need to click into a video to find the information they're looking for.

Google uses AI overviews for Google Search, but the YouTube version will differ. AI won't summarize videos, and will simply pull clips from them. It is not clear the AI-selected clips will encourage users to watch a full video, or cause fewer people to engage with videos, but AI integration into Google Search has impacted traffic to websites.

For the use case of looking for some tutorial on a thing or a recipe or something and having the option of skipping straight past all the watchtime-boosting filler content and straight to the answer this seems like a decent solution if it works semi-reliably. I imagine since they are pulling full transcripts for subtitle generation already it's just a text search with a timecode.

I will also buy into a setting to get past "Hey guys, welcome to my video!" and "Please like and subscribe" automatically, but I doubt Google is into that.

How well do you know 14th century minutia? That can end up being a very long con if the next thing you remember is like the general lines of Joan of Arc's whole deal in 50 years or whatever.

No, I saw a piece of data that doesn't match my experience, which meant I must be missing something, so I asked.

You should try it sometime, it's super useful for figuring things out. It'd help.

Finally data! Fig 2 in your link tells the entire story, I believe.

For the record, my point is about the EU. The idea I'm trying to impress is that respondents to this thread seem to look at EV positioning and penetration globally, but if you're just looking at the EU that will be very different than North America, and the perspective people keep repeating seems very, very, VERY North American to me.

No wonder that's the case, because yeah, the differences are huge, as you say. Not just for overall penetration, raging from 90% to 5% of all cars registered in your chart. Also in the types of EVs. Plug-in hybrid goes from 10-ish percent of new EVs in Norway to 75%-ish of all EVs in Romania. That's a big swing (and some egg on grumpy "plug-in-hybrids-are-no-longer-a-concern guy up the thread).

The spread is also... consistently inconsistent? Northern countries seem to definitely take the lead, but the rest is strange. Why is Portugal so much higher than Spain? Why is Romania plug-in hybrid heaven? Why is there such a sudden break of almost 10 % between the top and the bottom half of the table?

And that's even before we try to break it down by brand. I bet the Tesla dominance thing is also weirdly spread. Would love to know if there is a correlation with how those two numbers shake out one way or the other.

In any case, thanks for looking that up and being, astonishingly, the first person to actually check their assumptions in this whole thread.

See, again what I'm missing from that statement is location.

Tesla had a lead where? You couldn't buy a Tesla at all where I lived at the time. Visiting North America everybody wanted one and I knew multiple people who did have one, but there were even more European EVs there than in Europe. First BMW i series I saw was in Canada. Last one, too.

So when did all of this reach Europe? Where in Europe? How fast did it grow in some parts versus others? Was it inconsistently fast but Tesla was ahead everywhere consistently or was the Tesla growth desynched from EV growth in general?

People are feeding me very reductive one-size-fits-all views of the EV market as a global thing in this thread while also giving me very good reason to suspect the EV market isn't globally uniform (or even uniform across Europe, for that matter) at the same time, and no resources to tell which is which beyond anecdotal observation.

To be clear, they ARE building an AI-forward browser and he is very plain about collecting a ton of user info. The way it's presented in context is that they intend to plug it in to their assistant/agent thing and surface relevant stuff to you on searches (which is the potential ad opportunity the article quotes as if it was the sole goal). But yeah, the implication is that they are collecting data regardless, even if the user profile ends up being used to cater AI responses to you specifically, to train models or whatever.

Hearing the guy talk about it I get the impression that he envisions an Apple-like ecosystem where they're constantly ingesting data and you're paying them to have their AI services act as a personal assistant and handle purchases and booking for you directly and so on, on top of anwering queries.

I would rather clip my toenails with a rusty chainsaw, myself, but that seems to be the idea.

Huh. And even with that Tesla was dominating the space? That's a shocker.

Besides telling me that every other manufacturer was massively screwing up the big thing that would seem to indicate is that penetration was extremely uneven. I came into the thread wanting to see a chart, I'm coming out of it wanting to see a map.

Or viceversa. Hence the point of even asking in the first place.

I flagged that my impression was anecdotal up front, but the most interesting takeaway of the way this thread ended up playing out is that people are super happy assuming everybody else's fragmentary data or observations are anecdotal but theirs are a typical, statistically significant sample.

Bit of an unexpected way to lose faith in humanity this fine morning, but here we all are, I suppose.

Hey, I'll say this, if you want to have this pointless argument with someone who isn't me by just typing "TLDR" and making up some shit you have my wholehearted blessing. Beats having to comb through obnoxious quote blocks to nitpick the smaller fallacies, so go nuts.

Call me when it gets to the full-on name calling, that's always the most exciting part.

Yes, indeed it is anecdotal.

Did the sentence "In the two or three European countries I visit often you definitely see more of those, at least anecdotally" tip you off? I find that very observant.