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Congratulations NZP you and your guns successfully escalated this situation to as bad as it could possibly get.

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[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This isn't a surprise knife attack, it was the entire reason for the call. I'd expect some standard approach that plans for the scenario of the person turning on police.

Every time something like this happens, a bunch of people who've clearly led very sheltered lives

100% me, hence my comment that I'd happily change my mind if a review found they did this as well as they could. But the report the other day called out police as doing this poorly, and learning little in the past 10 years. Hence they don't get the benefit of the doubt anymore.

[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 5 points 2 days ago

Why is he comparing people who have led sheltered lives with supposedly trained police force. The police should most definitely not act like people who lead sheltered lives. Their entire job is to deal with these types of situations.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd expect some standard approach that plans for the scenario of the person turning on police.

I very much think the response we saw here would be a standard one across police forces worldwide.

[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You are very wrong. It's extremely rare for the police to gun down citizens in Europe.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be fair; it is also extremely rare in NZ.

Police figures showed 55 people had been shot dead by an officer between 1916 and the end of the last year - and just one of those who died was a woman.

55 in 108 years; that is just over 0.5 per year.

[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd like to see that plotted year over year.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 day ago

Exactly. Also broken down by the parties in government.