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Once again our current govt shows it's disdain for Maōri and te Tiriti.

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[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I was at a funeral the other day and the paster said something like "this country was built on Judeo-Christian values and lived by these values..."

It was the whitest funeral I think I've ever been to.

NZ is as racist as [a] Duck

[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gaza is an example of Judeo-Christian values.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nah, there's a pretty recent religious cover but the whole Israeli project and everything that came from it is an example of Enlightenment values regarding nationality. The Gaza genocide isn't fundamentally different from the Nakba, which was committed by atheists.

[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nakba was committed by Jews who believed god promised them that land. Israel's genocide is being supported by Europe and the US because Yahveh commanded the genocide of Israel's enemies and said that Jesus won't come back until Jews rule from the river to the sea.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Uh... to he clear, Ben Gurion didn't believe shit about being promised the land of Palestine. Zionist leadership (and a good chunk of the rank and file, though I couldn't tell you how much) at the time of the Nakba was atheist as all hell. The first conception that Palestinians would have to be removed from their lands was by the big man Herzl himself, and Herzl was also a committed atheist.

[–] BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 day ago

Uh… to he clear, Ben Gurion didn’t believe shit about being promised the land of Palestine.

citation needed. Why did Ben Gurion insist that Israel be in the lands described in the torah? Wasn't he offered a homeland for jews in Madagascar?

Zionist leadership (and a good chunk of the rank and file, though I couldn’t tell you how much) at the time of the Nakba was atheist as all hell.

Again citation needed. Also zionism is religious in nature. The concepts of jewish homeland in the land of zion are from the torah.

Zionism is a movement based on religion.

[–] deadbeef@lemmy.nz 5 points 2 days ago

Oh that is a load of crap. I do not want my funeral to be anything to do with organised religion.