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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 4 months ago (149 children)

Everyone knows the democrats will do this every time. “Vote blue no matter who” is a crock of shit and every single person who gives you shit for not voting for Harris and her shitty campaign that pandered to the right and Israel can be directed to party leadership’s behavior here and in New York

If they can run the risk of handing over mayorships to republicans because the “blue” candidate isn’t correctly blue then logically I can say I’m not going to back any genocide enabling, insider trading, corporate slaves who will sell out any marginalized group to keep their entrenched power (see newsoms pandering anti trans bullshit to charlie kirk).

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 4 months ago (127 children)

"Vote blue no matter who" is a direct result of FPTP voting. Until that's fixed, yeah keep voting blue...if there isn't a more progressive candidate.

We need a viable third party and the time to start one was November 6, 2024. We're past the point to make a dent in the midterms (assuming we have elections) but we have time to run progressive candidates.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

The issue is that with ballot access laws, third parties have to have a ton of momentum. And Democrats systematically engage in lawfare to kick third parties and other individuals off the ballot - look it up, they fight anyone to the left of them with more cohesion than they fight Republicans or Trump.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yup. I wanted to vote for the socialist candidate last election, and democrats sued her off the ballot.

That did not result in me voting for Harris, but it did convince me to refuse to vote for any down ballot democrats.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My party also had no candidate on the ballot because they were sued by the Dems. Not sure who they think they're winning over with that.

[–] piefood@feddit.online 1 points 4 months ago

Not sure who they think they're winning over with that.

Their rich donors

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That's because their donors tell them who to fight, and it's almost never the people to their right because Republicans don't threaten the donors' wealth.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They do now. Attempting to influence the federal reserve board isn't good for the rich (or anyone else).

He's trying to overheat the economy to get a gold star before it collapses.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I argue that the rich and powerful want another crash or collapse, otherwise why are the very rich, big corporations, and other institutions not doing anything to fight back against Trump's policies?

The answer is obvious to me: fascism isn't a threat to capitalism and there are historical parallels to support my assertion: https://youtu.be/7f_V9zZNzTY

Every single time there are economic problems, the rich get bailed out (or barely feel a hit) and are enabled to take more and more power, wealth, and influence while the 99% toil.

The rich's game of capitalism only "collapses" if they want it to.

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