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[–] yucandu@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (76 children)

The one that they keep spending billions of dollars every year to influence, including spreading the myth that your vote doesn't matter, to discourage voter participation.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago (56 children)

The one that they keep spending billions of dollars every year to influence

Which is why voting cannot overcome capital. I'm not saying voting is pointless, only that voting has been made to be incapable of undoing the power that has accumulated under capital.

The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (55 children)

Which is why voting cannot overcome capital.

Why not? Have you tried? The internet is the greatest opportunity in American history - you no longer need to be a newspaper tycoon or a TV or radio station owner to reach people. Just the right message and the right personality.

China and Russia are tricking people on the internet right now into storming Area 51, eating tide pods, electing a fascist, and they did it all for PENNIES.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why not?

Because capital will never cede power without a threat of violence (implicit or otherwise).

China and Russia [...] did it all for PENNIES

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Because capital will never cede power without a threat of violence (implicit or otherwise).

Again, have you tried?

Yes, quite sure:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency#Timeline_of_the_Internet_Research_Agency_interference_in_United_States_elections

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Again, have you tried?

Every fuckin day, bud. It has quite literally never happened without it.

Yes, quite sure

Those are billion-dollar psyop campaigns run by the largest and most well-funded intelligence agencies in the world.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, quite sure:

Why? Because of a wikipedia post citing things like the Washington Post? What is your actual evidence? Present your actual evidence of "China and Russia are tricking people on the internet right now into storming Area 51, eating tide pods, electing a fascist". Not some other claim, not just "oh Russia does some astroturfing", that specific claim. How about you start with the tide pods.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why? Because of a wikipedia post citing things like the Washington Post?

There's 184 sources in there, discredit all of them.

that specific claim. How about you start with the tide pods.

Google "Tiktok challenges".

But really, I'm more concerned about the electing a fascist part.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There’s 184 sources in there, discredit all of them.

Fuck off with that Gish Gallop. How about you actually present your sources.

Google “Tiktok challenges”.

I googled it, found zero evidence about "China and Russia are tricking people on the internet right now into eating tide pods"

So you were just lying.

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