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The world is cruel and ugly. There are plenty of justifiable things to be upset and distraught over. I don't want to hear about those. I want to know what bizarre out of left field takes you have that infuriates you.

I'm still upset about Tenochtitlan falling and being buried. I'm a gringo, I shouldn't have an opinion about Lake Texcoco being drained centuries ago.

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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 21 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I get a bit frustrated sometimes to see stars and think of the universe burning away it's entropy without anyone putting it to useful ends, like most of the universe going to waste before anyone can even reach it.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

without anyone putting it to useful ends

You never know; we might be a car battery.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In the context of the universe as a whole, what even is "useful"? Maybe its just here to shine bright for a few trillion years and that's all it needs to be. Art doesn't need to be useful.

If human history tells us anything its that we'd somehow suck the beauty out of it all in the name of profit.

I'm not really a nihilist or anything but it seems like almost anything we touch turns to shit. I'm all for colonizing the moon and Mars and making use of the asteroid belt but on bigger scales, maybe its better off to just sit back and enjoy the view?

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I tend towards a variation on utilitarianism, from that point of view energy in a finite universe that could be used to support intelligent life in some way, but isnt, is unethical, and while that might not really demand much action from us right now given that space development is a very, very long term project by nature and we're already working on developing the most basic forms of the requisite technology, it still seems a bit frustrating to lose that which we cannot reach. Its not just us either, statistically speaking it should be extremely unlikely for life and advanced intelligence to occur once, but only once, so I take it as a given that theres more out there somewhere, but evidently it cant be that common or else hasnt gotten much further than us, given all the stars we can see out there.

I dont really think everything we touch turns to shit, I just think we judge ourselves much more harshly than we judge "natural" things. I dont really care that much if the people that go off to the stars do so because of some desire to harvest them for some kind of profit or put up a space-mcdonalds at alpha centauri or whatever, as long as someone goes. Obviously I would prefer they build a nicer society there than just a rehash of what we have here right now, but in my view even the crappiest society is preferable to a dead rock or inanimate clump of gas, even if it is an aesthetically pleasing rock. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say, and I think we can make beautiful things, or failing that, and least find the beauty in what we do make, if we try.

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Imagine all the cool planets that'll never be observed

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Yeah but that's justifiable (and existential).