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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Big tents absolutely win elections, that's really the only thing that does. Seats at the table are incentives to get people in the tent. But if they don't get the votes , they don't get the table, and any seats they offer are worthless.

You put me in a room with Democratic party leadership, and I'll tear into them with all the rightful criticism they deserve. You put me in a room with voters, before the election, I will sing their praises. I'll advocate their victories and downplay their flaws.

Not because the victories are substantial, and certainly not because their flaws aren't terrible. But there are two tents big enough to win the office, and the other one is worse and backed by lockstep support.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Did the Dems gain significant votes by offering Liz Cheney a seat at the table?

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Liz Cheney represents conservatives who don't want to vote for Trump. That demographic represents more votes than leftists. That's what happens when you play hard to get too hard, the person you're after gives up and goes after someone else.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

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[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, which is why Kamala won!

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just because it wasn't successful doesn't mean it wasn't the rational choice. It's very possible that she would have done worse if she hadn't courted conservatives, and possible she would have done even worse than that if she'd gone full tilt toward progressives. Hindsight is easy.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

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