Imagine supporting the deaths of thousands. If you really think anyone out here is blindly supporting specifically Ukraines government, you're fucking stupid, this is about the thousands of innocent civilians getting their lives demolished because of putins raging boner for death. He doesn't actually give a fuck about the tiny amount of Nazis in Ukraine, of which there are unfortunately Nazis everywhere in the world Including russia, he just wants power over the region and this was the best excuse he could think of.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

The Ukrainian government and Nazi militias were murdering thousands of people in eastern Ukraine already. The fact you frame this as Putin just having a murder boner like some cartoon villain displays how ignorant you are and what I fucking hate about liberals.

[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

I feel like you lose a lot of credibility when your geopolitical analysis hinges on boners. I think very few would disagree with you if you said that Putin were cynically pursuing his and the Russian state's interests in the region, with complete disregard for civilian life.

The point is not that there are 'a tiny number of Nazis' in Ukraine The point is that there are a large number of Nazi paramilitary forces who were committing mass murder in Donbas well before the Russian invasion, and the Ukrainian government was complicit in these crimes, in addition to crimes of their own, such as shelling civilian targets. By all means, let's talk about ending the conflict, because the suffering of the people of Ukraine has gone on long enough, but a necessary first step is acknowledging that the conflict had already begun long before Russia invaded.

[–] bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago

While loss of life is terrible, the civilian deaths is way overblown by western media making Russia out to be horrible monsters when it really should be leveled against the US empire and their imperialism