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[–] choochooMF@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

When 99% of installs come from one location, there needs to be a way to describe that other than “Installing apps from outside the default app store”.

Y tho. What difference does it make? Its the same thing.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org -5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It's simply not the same thing and if you can't understand how that makes it different, I don't know how to help you.

[–] choochooMF@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Installing an app is not the same thing as installing an app? What difference does it make where it came from? Why do you need two different words for installing an app? Why does the distinction of where it came from matter when the outcome is no different?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Installing an app is not the same thing as installing an app?

Yes, that's exactly what I said 😮‍💨

[–] choochooMF@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't say that's what you said, I'm making a point that its the same fucking thing. Read the rest of my comment and answer my questions please. Or do you agree that there's no functional difference and splitting hairs about where it came from is just a way to enforce corporate hegemony?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't say that's what you said

It was clearly the implied suggestion. I've already answered your questions a dozen times elsewhere. Gonna have to have a poke around because I don't feel like typing them again.

Or do you agree that there's no functional difference and splitting hairs about where it came from is just a way to enforce corporate hegemony?

The functional difference is that one means "installing from anywhere" and the other means "installing from outside the default app store". They are different words with different meanings, one being more specific than the other.

It's like saying "neurosurgeon" instead of "medical professional". There is a difference. One is much more specific. "Neurosurgeon" wasn't made up by Big Pharma to gaslight you into believing brain surgery was bad, it's just a lot fewer words than "medical professional who does surgery on brains".

[–] choochooMF@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The functional difference is that one means “installing from anywhere” and the other means “installing from outside the default app store”. They are different words with different meanings, one being more specific than the other.

If the outcome is the same, then there is no functional difference. If I say I need to see a doctor, there is a functional difference between a neurosurgeon and another medical professional. If I say I want to download a calculator app, there is no functional difference if I download it from a first-party app store or a third-party app store. You're splitting hairs. Stop supporting corporate hegemony.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

If the outcome is the same, then there is no functional difference.

The outcome is absolutely not the same. If Google said "we're no longer allowing you to install apps", that would be a completely different conversation. There is a functional differrence.

If someone sent a nurse in to do your neurosugery, that would absolutely not be the same...

I don't understand why this needs to be explained...

You're splitting hairs

My brother in Christ, you're literally the one splitting hairs...that's the opposite of what I'm doing.

[–] choochooMF@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If there is a functional difference, then why can't you say what the difference is? You continue to refuse to do so BECAUSE THERE IS NO FUNCTIONAL DIFFERENCE. All you're doing is installing an app. The only thing that changes is where the app comes from and if your corporate overlords approve of it's origin. So again, what fundamental difference does it make where the app comes from?

My brother in Christ, you’re literally the one splitting hairs…that’s the opposite of what I’m doing.

I'm saying they're the same. You're saying these two things that are functionally identical are fundamentally different. In what conceivable way am I splitting hairs?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 7 hours ago

then why can't you say what the difference is?

I literally just did, twice. If you're just going to submit angry replies without actually reading the comments then this discussion is doomed, so good day.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Why would you want to call it sideloading when you're not loading from the side? It's just doing what Google wants you to do.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Why would you want to call it sideloading when you're not loading from the side?

I don't know what you think "loading from the side" means? I use the term for the same reason I use any other term: to convey ideas through common understandings.

It's just doing what Google wants you to do.

Why the fuck would Google care what words you use?

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

It means downloading not from the internet but from another device.

Google wants it to mean installing software they don't condone, but I don't see why the rest of us should follow their lead. I don't know anyone who calls installing from FDroid "sideloading"

The words people use influences public opinion and the bottom line of corporations such as Ford and Google.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 12 hours ago

It means downloading not from the internet but from another device.

It doesn't.