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[–] RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 17 points 3 months ago (5 children)

The criteria for sainthood is three-fold:

  1. The person must be dead.
  2. The person must have lived a life of heroic virtue for the Christian life.
  3. There must be more than 1 confirmed miracle attributed to the potential saint AFTER they have died. (Though I think martyrs only need 1 miracle.)

The idea in the Catholic faith is that the dead watch the living and plead with God on the living’s behalf. Therefore, if a miracle happens after a person has prayed to a potential Saint, that Saint may be attributed with that miracle (for the proposes of sainthood).

I like to think of it like the commission that clothing store clerks get. When you go to make your purchase at the Bloomingdale’s, the cashier would say “Did anyone help you with your purchase today?” And if you say “yes, Mandy recommended I get the red windbreaker instead of the grey overcoat”, then Mandy the store clerk gets the credit for the sale.

The potential saint gets credit for the miracle. There’s usually a long investigation by the church to prove that 1) a miracle actually happened, and 2) that the saint was “involved” somehow. In this case it seems like the investigation was abbreviated.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The idea in the Catholic faith is that the dead watch the living and plead with God on the living’s behalf.

Ah right... Straight from the Bible.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In practice, there is no major Christian group whose beliefs actually follow from the Bible.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

I'm not sure that's the lights out argument that you think it is...

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