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What I mean is like, what do you think is unironically awesome, even if people now think its cringe or stupid?

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Lookout guys, its a prompt "engineer"!

My 5 year old niece is a prompt "engineer" too.

If you want art to have absolutely zero humanity in it, gobble up all the slop you want.

You are correct about the end stage capitalism component. But if youre truly a "prompt engineer" you should know running a local model doesnt at all unlink you from massive data sucking corps, because who do you think trained that model?

For the record I will also say that painting a picture DOES take more invested skill than a photograph, and I will respect the person who painted a scene vs took a picture of it WAY more. Now, both can be enjoyed by anyone, and thats fine.

I'll have absolutely 0 respect for any image made using ai. Its a toy, and a tool for corporations to further cut costs where they want to the most (take out the pesky humans and gross empathy, ick!)

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

It takes skill to eat literal shit without gagging

Doesn't change anything about how good it is.

Skill has nothing to do with art.

People said the same about electronic music. Calling it "skill-less" music, since you only have to "press a couple of buttons" instead of learning an entire instrument.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The skill that it takes to produce something is a horrible, horrible metric for what makes something good art or not. There are artworks that took tons of skill but are boring, bland, generic, emotionless - all the things you don't like about AI art. There are artworks that took next to no skill but stand out as powerful, great works that resonate with everyone.

Skill is a proxy used to judge art in place of having developed taste. The purpose of art is not to show off, to flex your skill, or demonstrate technical superiority to others. This is a very sad, utilitarian, economic view of art that I beg you to reconsider.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its a good point. However id argue that many things did require great skill and time commitments OR the people who created them were so above normal people with their gifts that it didn't take them as much effort as someone else.

Example, do you think Bach wrote all his best work in a day with no effort ?

Do you think a 3 minute song made of GarageBand loops by a 13 year old is on the same level of art ? No, its not. However, someone may enjoy the 3 minute looped song over a Bach piece. Thats fine. But if we have to ask which is higher art and which is timeless, its going to be the Bach piece.

I agree though to a point, metal for example. Just because dream theater puts out an insanely complex 20 minute song that only they can play proficiently doesn't mean its "better" than enter sandman. The areas get very gray at that point.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

While I agree with your conclusion about the garageband loops vs the Bach, I think that the skill was coincidental, not essential, in the superiority of the Bach piece. It's not the fact that Bach was more skilled that makes his piece better. It's simply the case that his skill made it easier for him to discover a better piece. It's something useful for him, but as people who experience his art, it's not what the art is about. If a toddler happened to accidentally mash out the same piece on the piano at home (yes this is unfathomably unlikely), it would still be an equally amazing and timeless piece - despite the fact that no skill whatsoever went into it. All that the artwork is, is contained in the artwork. Everything else is extraneous context that we may derive some other additional value from, but it is not essential to the art in itself.

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i honestly stopped reading after you called my job prompt engineering.

machine learning has been a specialization for well over a century. i have a master’s degree in it, im an expert on the topic and am certain what i do is not “prompt engineering.”

do you think LLMs like ChatGPT just sprung out of the ground like plants? people had to design those. even if you don’t like them figuring out how to build one is engineering, doubtlessly so. using a tool that has been engineered isn’t engineering, obviously, but i’m not going to further entertain this strawmanning.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes GD and ML are entirely different. I agree with you. I just dont understand why you would support llm based art.

[–] ReCursing@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago

That's because you are as wilfully ignorant as trump cultist and refuse to understand how this new tool works. You've been told it's bad by luddite youtube influencers and that's good enough for you.