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[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're illustrating my point - that assertions about how Labor is really a conservative party, are subjective and unhelpful.

the term regressive. It's the opposite side of conservative from progressive. For changes, but ones that make things worse

Apparently half of voting Americans would disagree with you, as they seem to believe Trump's changes will make things better.

My original point is, an assertion that Labor is a conservative party is essentially a "both sides" argument, which discourages people from engaging with politics. Admittedly, it's less egregious in Australia given that we have preferential voting, but it's still an annoying Americanism.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You’re illustrating my point - that assertions about how Labor is really a conservative party, are subjective and unhelpful

I don't know how, after everything I've said, that can possibly be anyone's takeaway.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Everything you've said is the very definition of subjective - making up your own definitions for complex concepts without any regard for the meaning of those terms.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago

Nothing about my definitions is subjective.

You know what is subjective? Relying on how parties choose to self-identify, regardless of the truth of their actual policies.