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What they are in reality is an extremist, fundamentalist and far-right strain of liberal. Liberalism has always really just been the fig-leaf ideology behind which capitalism hides... but these people calling themselves "conservatives" are really just capitalists that don't see the need to bother with a fig-leaf at all. Simply consider the behaviour of people like Trump, Musk and all the other billionaires that barely hide their contempt for the working class. They are not true fascists, but I don't see a problem with people calling them that - they certainly would like to be true fascists but lack the connection to the working class to actually do that like Hitler or Mussolini did. They are just extremely spoilt rich people living in bubbles of privilege... unlike the fascists of old.
Conservatism itself is essentially a dead ideology - the conservatives of Abraham Lincoln's time would sound like radical leftists in comparison to the people using that label today.
Sorry, no
They are authoritarians with boners for the NAZIs. Simply put.
Lol!
Did you actually read what you posted, genius?
Here. I'll make this a bit less confusing for you.
"An economic theory in favour of laizzez-faire, the free market, and the gold standard."
Do tell... which of the two formal political factions in the US is most in favour of allowing billionaire parasites (ie, capitalists) to run everything and using the (so-called) "free market" a justification for that?
The people (honestly) calling themselves "liberals" or the people (falsely) calling themselves "conservatives?"
Read this part real careful like... political conservatism is a dead ideology.
You don't have to believe me - hear it from an actual conservative.
Ha ha!
laizzez-faire! laizzez-faire!
laizzez-faire isn't an exclusive tenant of liberalism you moron.
If youre posting Noah Chomsky youre talking about NEO-CONS.
Its been 10 years since the GOP has unmasked themselves as authoritarians and youre living in a fucking time capsule.
Hey Buddy, if you’re throwing around pejorative insults on the Internet, you’ve already lost, But you do you sweety.
dont throw pejoratives
Immediately uses pejorative.
Hey, what did I lose? Did I lose an internet argument!??!?!?
Omg, ill never recover.
Where's the irony?
Ooooooh... do tell, genius - what other ideology is so blindingly loyal to the capitalist mode of production?
Monarchism, perhaps?
Is there a particular reason you don't want to admit what liberalism is and always have been?
Is that what the current iteration of the conservative ideology believes???
Crony capitalism is not laizzez-faire
"Crony capitalism" is the only kind of capitalism there is and always have been, genius.
That is not laizzez-faire. By definition.
Right, right... the (so-called) "free market" would never allow capitalists to act in a concerted way to dominate it, could they? Because... erm... reasons... something, something, "invisible hand," something, something.
Tell me another one, liberal.
Right, right, this specific tenant of liberalism, admitantely, doesnt exsist in modern conservative ideology but its still my only argument.
Tell me another one cotton head.
And now you've become just completely incoherent... no wonder alt-righters that desperately avoid debates with real leftists have no problem running circles around you - your own logic defeats you before you've even started.
I will not take the opinion of what is coherent from someone who is cos-playing an intellectual.
Maybe you should go back to jerking off Jordan Peterson.
Falling for right-wing narratives without too much resistance is your characteristic, liberal... not us leftists.
Youre a disgrace to leftists and they should quarantine you to hasans fan page.
Oh, look - a liberal telling leftists what they should or shouldn't do.
Do tell, liberal... why should leftists listen to anything a right-winger says?
Tell me this, why should a leftist be involved in the discussion at all if they are so political inept they dont understand democracy?
Your direct quote demonstrates it:
Nothing but incoherence from you again... wanna take a breather from all that "reaching across the aisle" you've been doing and try again, liberal?
You. Don't. Understand. Words.
Thats a you problem.
Your incoherence is a "me" problem?
You not being able to understand simple concepts is very much a problem which I suspect infiltrates every aspect of your life.
Again... your incoherence is a "me" problem?
Yeah and "Democrat" used to mean you liked slavery. The meaning of words (especially regarding political ideology) shift over time.
These people are conservatives.
No. They're not.
But if you really wish to continue flattering them, feel free to call them "conservatives" - it informs them that their pretense is still working.
Flattering them??? Conservatism is not some holy religion but if it makes you feel better. What ever.
You seem very desperate to pretend that there really is a big difference between liberalism and (so-called) "conservatism."
Are you a liberal, perhaps?
No, im asking you if fascism isn't the appropriate description of what "conservatives" believe what is it?
I've already answered that question for you... your reaction suggests you're a liberal that didn't like what they were told.
You're reaction is that of a decomposing corpse clinging to ideas that were only relevant 30 years ago.
Soooo... you're just another liberal that doesn't want to accept how right-wing your ideology truly is.
Bro. Fuck off. You’re a conservative because you have a history of intruding in spaces where you are clearly not wanted and arguing with people, fuck off. That is not an insult. It is a command.
Oooooh, I don't know about that... it seems it's only desperate liberals that don't want real leftists around.
Besides... you don't need me to highlight the intimate links between liberalism and fascism for everybody - you and Genocide Joe managed that quite nicely.
No true Scotsman fallacy detected again, fuck off weirdo. Or should I say, Sir Real Leftist fuck off🤣🤣🤣🤣
Where are you getting this shit? Try harder not to be partisan you fucking hack.
Partisans were people who fought actual Nazis, Clyde... you know, that thing you liberals couldn't be bothered to do?
Barking up the wrong tree.
Hahaha liberals bad, im a based political commentor.
Ie... liberal.
Fuck, call me liberal. Its way better then what ever you proport to be. Call authoritians liberal, fine, nothing would get the GOP turn on themselves faster than adopting the moniker.
Youre a basic scrub pretending to know something you have no real grasp on.
What else should I call a liberal... except a liberal?
What should I call person with the mind of a child other than a child.
Ie... you're a liberal.
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Language, its beautiful.