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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I think that, perhaps, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the generally accepted (speaking for the US here) definition of what the conservative political ideology actually is. I say that with all due respect.

Modern conservatives do not care about conserving the environment. Literally the opposite.

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I know what the generally accepted definition is, I just don't accept it. Regressives don't have a right to call themselves conservative and I won't stop calling them out on it.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

But conservatives have always been regressive in the US.

The things they were trying to conserve were slavery, segregation, women having no rights, companies being able to destroy the environment and abuse workers, etc.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

Conservatives have always been regressive, period. Their entire philosophy emerged as a reaction to the "excesses" of the French Revolution. The forward "movement" (if you want to call it that) was from the "divine right of kings" to the "divine right of lords" (chosen by the market).

To quote the infinitely quotable (Wilhout, from the top rope...with a fucking blog comment):

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

The whole "left vs right" divide itself originates from this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum

I understand the desire to take the positive aspects of a word, apply them to your political stance, and pretend that you're part of a movement. But it isn't true. It reminds me of when lefties (often in a USA centric thread) describe themselves as "left libertarians". All this crap does is confuse people and make you sound like a pedant.

If you think this is what conservative means and that's what your politics are, you're basically just politically homeless...and have been since you started calling yourself that.