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With the recent discussions around replacing Spotify with selfhosted services and the possibilities to obtain the music itself, I've been finally setting up Navidrome. I had to do quite a bit of reorganization to do with my existing collection (beets helping a ton) but now it's in a neatly organized structure and I'm enjoying it everywhere. I get most of my stuff from Bandcamp but I have a big catalog from when I've still had a large physical collection.

I'm also still working on my docker quasi gitops stack. I've cleaned up my compose files and put the secrets in env files where I hadn't already, checked them into my new forgejo instance and (mostly) configured renovate. Komodo is about to get productive but I couldn't find the time yet. Also I need to figure out how to check in secrets in a secure way. I know some but I haven't tried those with Komodo yet. This close of my fully automated update-on-merge compose stacks!

I've also been doing these for quite a while and decided to sometimes post them in !selfhosting@slrpnk.net to possibly help moving a bit from the biggest Lemmy instance, even though this community as it is is perfectly fine as well as it seems.

What's going on on your servers? Anything you are trying to pursue at the moment?

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[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Trying to figure out how to drop my energy requirements and still keep ~100TB running.

Right now it’s 12x 10TB drives in a RAID 6 with ~8TB still available; it might be time to bite the bullet and upgrade to 20TB drives. Problem is, if my calculations are correct, I’d still need 7 drives - 5 X 20TB=100TB and then two more drives for “parity”.

The server I have lined up already has a PERC in it.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Do you actually need 100TB instantly available? Could a portion of that be cold storage that can be booted quickly from a WOL packet from the always-on machine when needed? With some tweaking, you could probably set up an alpine-based NAS to boot in <10 seconds, especially if you picked something that supported coreboot and could avoid that long bios post time.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Don’t need the 100TB instantly. Most of the Linux ISOs are more for archival reasons.

Talk to me more about this NAS with WOL. :-)

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Most motherboards support wake packets sent over Ethernet. They only work on your lan, but they will start a machine or wake it from sleep. Sending a packet from another machine is fairly simple, it’s old tech. I’ve seen simple web servers that have a “send wake” button, but you could probably trigger it from a variety of things

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The WoL part I’ve got.

It’s the NAS with ~10 second boot time that can house enough drives for 80TB of data which would be triggered and accessible to a plex server when needed that I’m more interested in.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Alpine Linux can boot in a few seconds. Stick to something extremely simple like nfs or samba and nothing else in the boot. Or use suspend to ram with your regular OS.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Last question; how would I get it to wake when someone’s trying to access a file on it?

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You would have to script something based on whatever service is actually being used, or maybe node red? In the past, way back, I used something like this that is just a simple web page that the user has to click a button to start the machine - there are a bunch of these https://github.com/Trugamr/wol - the web server is on the lan with the NAS so can send the magic packet, but the page can obviously be served over the internet.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

So, realistically, I’m probably looking for a commercial NAS that’ll spin the drives down when nothing is accessing them and spin them up once something attempts access.

Because I can’t think of another way to do this.

[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe you could just spin down/turn off the disks? That will reduce power consumption a lot and they'll get up once requested.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So more like a commercial NAS box and less like a repurposed Dell server.

[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Power consumption.

Plus, I don’t think an enterprise grade server is designed to spin down the disks when they’re not in use.

[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can just do that yourself regardless of what the server was intended to do, with a cronjob for example. You can also set an idle time after which it spins down with hdparm but that doesn't always work for different reasons.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do I set a cronjob on a Hyper-V host?

[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No idea, does it pass the drives through?

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not with a RAID controller, no.

[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IDK if these support IT mode or the like, but yes, hardware RAID makes this hard.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Usually not, no. With that in mind, it seems I’m looking for something more like a commercial NAS box and less like a repurposed Dell server.

[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What are you doing with that much space?

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Storing Linux ISOs, like everyone else.