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[–] dg2jeng@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (10 children)

i dont think this is a fair assessment of the filipino protests. he singles out an english article which tindig is mentioned, but the vast majority of these protests were grassroots and some even led by bayan and other national democratic groups who are ML. I think he shows a lack of knowledge in the conditions of the philippines.

[–] baffled_and_aghast@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 6 days ago (9 children)

If you look at any US supported color revolution there will always be organic actors and factors. The operation exploits existing tensions, pushes things in a certain direction at an opportune moment.

[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The operation exploits existing tensions, pushes things in a certain direction at an opportune moment.

Could you explain to me how the US doing a color revolution in this time is an 'opportune moment', after recently doing some western military drills with the Philippines' Marcos gov't, who has ended the national Belt and Road initiative and has basically clashed with the Dutertes over their pro-China stance?

Oh, and don't get me started on his military base expansion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_bases_in_the_Philippines#The_Enhanced_Defense_Cooperation_Agreement

[–] baffled_and_aghast@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Brian addresses this at 21:30

[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Kasi yung Leni? Ofc, she's a NED-lady but that doesn't make Bongbong Marcos' gov't any less pro U.S - it's not an independent force

You may say "he's coerced", but so is any leader when you have an occupier in your backyard propping your gov't, and, unless you have a short memory, you must remember this is the son of the U.S-backed dictator, Ferdinand Marcos, unless Bongbong makes a break with such polices, this is essentially like-father like-son system where it serves the US's interests, and in return, they live in luxury.

I don't think you know much about the Philippines, and I don't approve of you doing this lesser evilism.

[–] baffled_and_aghast@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Kasi yung Leni? Ofc, she’s a NED-lady

Well there ya go.

I don’t approve of you doing this lesser evilism.

Analysis of current events in light of US strategic goals and well established patterns of interference is neither a moral argument nor an endorsement of Bongbong.

[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

nor is your argument a sound one. How is this opportune time and how is Bongbong challenging US? You or Berlectic have yet to provide evidence of that.

Give me material and strategic interests, beyond this idealism you put up in your head that they merely want more loyal person than Marcoses, and maybe I respond well.

I repeat, unless Bongbong makes a break with such polices, this is essentially like-father like-son system where it serves the US’s interests, and in return, they live in luxury.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Not all NED funded protests of this sort aim at regime change. Some merely serve the purpose of applying pressure on a comprador regime that may be getting too comfortable and independent minded, to ensure they remain loyal, make them feel insecure in their position and understand that, should they step out of line, the US can immediately activate its regime change apparatus and do to them what was just done to Nepal. Is that what is happening in the Philippines? I don't know. I don't think we have enough evidence at the moment to draw a definitive conclusion. Time will tell.

[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 6 days ago

Ok, thank you. I'll keep that in mind.

[–] baffled_and_aghast@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Every comprador and accomplice of the oinking pig demons of the US empire eventually gets a knife in the back. Doesn't matter how much of a good little boy Bongbong was if they can get a fraction of a better deal or slightly more cooperation with someone else, especially at a crucial moment when they're setting dumpster fires across Asia.

Again, this is not an endorsement of Bongbong nor a dismissal of legitimate grievances against him.

[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 days ago

Fine, my apologies. I've just read this part on Killing Hope with Zaire: 1970s. They still wanted to overthrow that comprador Mobuto.

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