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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 82 points 5 days ago (15 children)

I can't decide if they have no idea what leftism is, are lying about what it is, don't care what it is, or a combination of the three. The things labelled as extreme left wing in America is laughably fucking ridiculous. This is a country where for a time there were "libertarians* who literally booed a libertarian presidential candidate for suggesting drivers licenses should exist.

I will never understand this idea that any government control that exists should only exist to hurt people. The only explanation I can come up with is generations of anger piling up to the point that it's a miracle we haven't killed each other already.

I get being angry, I sure am. Way too much of the time. And I get that people can be brainwashed by billionaires/propaganda. But goddamn, common sense seems to have vanished.

People were sold the idea that rich people getting paid hundreds of times more than everyone else, and taxing them less was good for everyone. Are people actually stupid enough to believe this? I feel like a child old enough to understand money in the slightest would immediately assume it was a manipulative lie.

People were sold the idea that laws creating fairness in healthcare were evil.

People still are very racist. Literally blew my mind as a young child in elementary school when I learned that people were hated for being a different color. Just seems like something you have to be taught. Don't get me wrong, I get the type of light racism, where you sort of fear people you aren't familiar with and who seem strange from your perspective, is inevitable. That kind of racism can be curbed easily though. Spending so much energy thinking about how problems are all the fault of random strangers... How do people even get to that point? They must learn it from their parents and then never question it.

People buy the idea that any new gun law is literally evil And bizarrely, somehow against God himself. I come from a conservative religious family and even they admit that of course guns are dangerous and some new laws are needed.

People believe that trans people just popped into existence as a satanic evil farce meant to harm their children. Despite the fact that we've known for a very long time about people that fall outside the "norms" Of sexuality and gender.

People reject science despite the fact that for centuries life has gotten exponentially more livable as a direct result of science and medicine.

People believe oil companies that the earth isn't warming even though most of those people are old enough to have seen a noticeable shift in weather patterns. Less snow, more storms, etc.

People think Christianity, which self identifies as a religion of peace and love, requires them the hate or kill those different from them. And to will away any trace of empathy they might have for those people. Polar opposite of most of the new testament.

Sorry for the rambling rant, I guess my point is that we live in a world where not only does "the truth have a 'liberal' bias", the most basic common sense positions held by modern humans have been politicized and demonized by a bunch of obviously corrupt pieces of shit. And it's certainly the worst aspect of being human right now to see it getting worse. Fucking disgusting and so counterproductive. Leftism imo probably ought to just be about how to achieve most of the same goals that the right should have. Instead, we argue whether or not certain people have the right to exist or be shown any compassion on a personal or societal level. 🤮

[–] CainTheLongshot@lemmy.world 34 points 5 days ago (10 children)

My somewhat conservative brother told me the other day that if we tax billionaires, they will be forced to lay off employees.

I just don't have enough time and dry erase markers to break down how to effectively setup a BETTER economy where we can tax billionaires and still have a low unemployment rate, and not be beholden to fake job creators who were going to do layoffs anyways because line needs to always go up.

[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Stop giving them the benefit of the doubt. They're listening to the talking heads of nazi propaganda, who always give their listeners two ways to fight people calling out nazi propaganda.

Billionaires can afford to pay people!

nazi: No, they can't, it'll increase unemployment!

nazi: Jobs other than billionaire jobs suck!

You're right, you don't have enough time and dry markers to counter all their bullshit. Even if you did, they'd deflect to something else.

Nobody's "a little conservative" anymore, that's another nazi lie.

[–] CainTheLongshot@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I only say somewhat because he doesn't actually support (or voted for) this admin. He only voted for him in 16, and quickly realized how stupid he is. He has voted Democrat the last few elections, but differs in how we actually fix things.

So basically your average centrist right now.

What's strange is that he was a huge Bernie supporter back in 16, and that was the reason he flipped to R that election. So it's odd he's deepthroating billionaire propaganda now. He also doesn't watch any news outlets, and mostly gets his info from TikTok, which his feed is probably all Joe Rogan clips at this point.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

That's not "strange" that's just contrarian anti-establishmentarianism. No positive stances, only negarive ones.

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