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[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"net zero" just means you don't elect for the far more environmentally destructive method of burning fossil fuels

also, it seems the jury's still out on offshore turbines' environmental impact. some say it creates artificial reefs while some say its tons of noise disrupt marine life

[–] FreedomAdvocate -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Net zero organisations have shown a clear agenda against nuclear, which is ironic considering it’s the cleanest and most reliable power generation method, as well as taking up the smallest footprint with the least environmental disruption. “Net zero” in reality means “renewables” only.

Offshore turbines require insane amounts of concrete, steel, oil, and non renewable non recyclable materials not just to make, but to maintain. There’s also no doubt about them altering the ecosystems around them, and not for the better. They also aren’t even a viable option in most countries.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

Nuclear power requires a lot of water for coolant. Usually they use river water and release the heated water back in the river, which quite heavily disrupts the ecosystem.

Additionally, during heatwaves (which we're getting more and more of) the river water may get too warm to use, so the reactor has to shut down (happens in France almost every heatwave), which is bad as that happens when power usage tends to spike.

Nuclear is also extremely expensive, costs many years to build, not to mention we don't have enough educated nuclear engineers nor build capacity to keep up with the demand for new power. It's why investors generally don't bother with nuclear much, outside of specific niche cases. Not to mention the carbon footprint of building a power plant.

It's also likely going to get more expensive to run in the future. As renewables keep contributing more power to the grid (since they're so cheap and getting cheaper still), power generation will also fluctuate more. Meaning, other power sources need to be very flexible in when they output power themselves. Nuclear is famously quite inflexible, it takes time to spin up and wind down. There are reactor designs that are better at it, but even for those shutting down the reactor for a couple hours tends to be economic suicide as well. This exact reason btw is why gas is still used a lot; it's cleaner than coal at least, but also very easy to spin up or wind down without creating much extra cost. And it's much cheaper than nuclear (leaving more money to invest in renewables).

Nuclear could be great, if it was A) cheaper, B) faster to build and C) more flexible. And no, so far SMRs have not proven to be any of those things yet.