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How do Europeans use their digital ID cards if they are not using stock android or iOS? (www.theguardian.com)

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As above question.

Are they counted as 'digitally excluded' and how fucked are the actually digitally excluded residents?

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[–] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My phone is 14 years old, so no modern apps (especially the ones needing extra security) work there. In Ireland, we don't have a digital ID card, but there have been some equivalents:

During Covid, we had a digital vaccination pass. However, it was possible to request a paper version, which was supposed to be accepted everywhere (it wasn't).
Due to 2FA, many companies require a phone authenticator. Those companies that provide legally mandated products or services are required to provide an alternative to people without smartphones. For example, when I needed to renew my car insurance and couldn't do it online, the company had a phone number for over the phone renewal.
There's currently a fight whether one of our airlines can mandate app-only boarding passes, effectively excluding people without modern phones. Since they don't provide essential service that's mandated by law, they argue they should be able to do so.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

My phone is 14 years old

Incredible work tbh. Mind me asking what phone that is?

I got 5 years out of my last one and 3 so far on current one and feel like I'm doing well with 8 years from two phones.

[–] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Samsung Galaxy S2. I've been always using it only for calling, texting, checking the weather in the morning, and automatic sync with my watch after a run (and perhaps with some light Internet browsing), so combined with a phone case, the phone has seen very little outside world, which limited any potential damage. I did have to replace the battery twice, though.

Now that my Canon Powershot died, though, I'm still considering whether to upgrade to a phone with good optics or get a new camera. They are roughly the same price.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

S2 was a great phone in fairness. If you do upgrade the phone you'll be shocked at how far screens have come in that time. Cameras too but more on the mid range and higher phones. Cheaper ones are still taking mid pictures.