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[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 154 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Technically illegal where I live.

In Brazil you can't sell a device with a given feature and then remove said feature in a software update. Even Apple, known for never allowing downgrades, was forced to downgrade and pay a fine to a customer after his iPad 3 updated to iOS 7 and lost an iOS 6 feature.

In other words... every single Android device sold until today in Brazil allows sideloading. Even if a single customer uses a sideloaded app, removing the ability to sideload freely would be illegal, and because the original feature didn't require a developer signature it can't be enforced now.

The issue is, as always, if this went to court somebody would have to manage to explain to a tech illiterate judge what a "developer signature" is, how this relates to "sideloading" and so on.

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 minutes ago

technically you will still be able to install apps from outside the play store, but the developer will need to verify their identity with google.

Of course, most developers will refuse to do so (myself included), and so most apps will not be able to be installed. From a technical perspective, installing apps from other sources will still be allowed. So i can see judges ruling that this is not a feature removal.

You and I both know this is google killing non play store apps, but I don't think the tech illiterate judges will see it that way.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 8 hours ago

The problem might be that Google will argue this isn't a downgrade at all, but an upgrade (for "security" reasons). I don't want to be a pessimist, but the tech illiterate judges could eat that up.

thank god for brazil

[–] Lojcs@piefed.social 27 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

.. Brazil is one of the first countries this'll go into effect and I also remember something about how that first batch of countries was chosen because their governmemts support this change.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 28 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

because their governmemts support this change.

I can see how Google's PR team might use this argument, but it's certainly illegal in Brazil so our government most definitely isn't supporting this decision. Also, it needs to be way more specific than "government" - who exactly is endorsing this? Procon? Anatel? Polícia Federal?

Either way, the actual reason for targeting Brazil as one of the first is because we do love our piracy, which naturally translates into sideloading being frequent.

[–] NinjaTurtle@feddit.online 17 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Best of luck to Brazil then. Hopefully you get them to change course.

[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 5 points 7 hours ago

Brazil has actually been really good about holding the mega corps to account recently. I'm very hopeful for them.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Starting next year, Android will require all apps to be registered by verified developers in order to be installed by users on certified Android devices.

Are they actually proposing to make any previously sold devices “certified” through a software update, though? Your points are right on if this edict applied to all devices.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 3 points 6 hours ago

A "certified Android device" is a device running Google Play Services, Play Protect, Google's WideVine DRM scheme and a few other requirements. If you purchase a device from a known manufacturer, like Samsung, you're falling into this category.