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[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is what I always find amusing about the Communist argument.

Like, the elected politicians and bureaucracy can't be trusted enough to regulate industry under capitalism so we'll centralize things and then trust them to regulate industry under Communism?

Edit: whoof, should've thought about human nature when I dared to criticize communism. Almost lime there is another lesson somehwere there.

so, it's the goddamn weekend. How does everyone have so much free time this late on a Saturday? I'll do my best to get back to y'all on a dirty capitalist's time slot.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like, the elected politicians and bureaucracy can't be trusted enough to regulate industry under capitalism so we'll centralize things and then trust them to regulate industry under Communism?

If that's your understanding of Communism, then you need to read The State and Revolution. Quite a lot of Communist theory is concerned with eliminating the concept of beauracracy.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When have attempts to reduce bureaucracy not yielded even more bureaucracy ? This isn't a state V corporation issue either, bureaucracy thrives in both these places.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually Existing Socialist States.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Throughout history? The USSR, Cuba, PRC, Vietnam, Laos, etc.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know about Vietnam and Laos, but the three firsts ones are referred to as "regimes that controls all aspects of life". I mean, how is that even possible without extensive bureaucracy ? Are you interpreting "bureaucracy" in some unusual or private meaning of the word ? Like, are the "bureaucrats" just considered state officials themselves to pretend they aren't really a bureaucracy ?

"Bureaucracy is the administrative system governing any large institution, whether publicly owned or privately owned."

I mean, either they stay out of the lives of the people or they make all those decisions themselves or they hire a large class of bureaucrats to take these decisions for them. AI hasn't been around long enough to make it the bureaucracy.