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[–] ardi60@reddthat.com 170 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Here's your bypass:

In OOBE, go through MS account creation. Tell it you were born today. It'll let you set a password for the MS account before rejecting you due to COPA requirements. At this point, you can make an offline account without having even created an MS account, let alone having to use one.

This will not go away - it's a legal thing. MS doesn't want to deal with COPA stuff for very young kids, so this flow exists. Enjoy.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Rufus can be used to disable account creation along with other settings.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

rufus doesn't help with preloads that you don't want to or can't, for whatever reason, overwrite with a 'clean' install.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If os can't be installed off a usb then that means linux can't either, which makes it a pretty sad machine to spend money on.

So it must be a work or school device then? Which users wouldn't be installing OS on anyways with it being handled through IT.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There are plenty that will boot/install Linux just fine but won't do a nice clean install of Windows 11.

Modern Thinkpad E16 (AMD) is one of them, a clean USB won't work, it will always stick at not finding required drivers.

You need to inevitably create a USB install from the MS USB Media Creation tool, running on the machine itself from the included crapware Windows - to get an installer USB that will work.

Different if you're just pushing a wim over the network from endpoint/scm, but it's basically broken for local users.

[–] jodanlime@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago

I had this issue at work, I was able to fix it by using the windows media creation tool instead of just writing the iso to the drive. Not sure why that worked, but it has every time so far.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That's unfortunate. Looks like thinkpads aren't worth getting. I generally do not trust manfucturer preinstalled OS.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

I would still get a ThinkPad, but then, I would never be putting Windows on it anyway.

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

I generally do not trust manfucturer preinstalled OS.

Especially pertinent for Lenovo.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago

Only if you want to run Windows on that model I guess. My kid has an E16 AMD and installed Fedora Linux from a USB no problem.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you have more info regarding that ThinkPad E16?
I'm mostly working with T series laptops and haven't had the problem, but always good to know if or when an E16 shows up.

[–] Exec@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

Usually all ThinkPads work mostly the same regarding Linux support (bar the usual Nvidia driver shenanigans if you ever trip that), but I'd be concerned about the E-series themselves. If you want a cheaper than T-series ThinkPad you should get an L-series one. Not as expensive as the T-ones, but still retains some usable chassis durability, double replaceable memory slots, replaceable keyboard, etc.
I've started calling the E-series as E-waste.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the rule for any account or mobile game, too - if it asks your age before asking for consent to farm, put any age below 13. It'll either not farm you because it's illegal or it'll kick you out. If the latter, good riddance really

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ve always done 1/1/1984 for obvious reasons but this is a good tip

[–] hamFoilHat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've used 1/1/70 since it's the unix epoc, what's 1/1/84?

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you both for telling me the answers to your security questions.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't worry, Lemmy censors security information and passwords automatically, see: ******

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] No1@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

*******

Why are people just replying with asrerisks?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

12345

That didn't work. Maybe it doesn't realize that's the combination to my suitcase?

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago

oh no, dude, why did you publish my credit card pin code!?

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Back in my day, we had to make ourselves looks older online to get things, not younger! hehe

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My go to is to pop open the console and run "ipconfig /release" right before you create an account. Win 11 will have you set up a local account if you don't have a network connection.

[–] StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doesnt work on these newest versions anymore.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OOBE\BYPASSNRO has been off and on for me, but so far nuking the network connection has always worked for me. I'm setting up a few new computers tomorrow, it will be interesting to see what tricks still work.

[–] StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes please let us know. Wont know till we order another batch of newer computers in a few weeks.

I guess i could download the latest test build on a test machine and reset it and try.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Inconclusive. Re-used machines instead of new computers. Systems did have Windows 11 on them. OOBE\BypassNRO worked, but they may have pending updates.

Edit: one machine would not let me skip MS account sign in with OOBE\BypassNRO. IPConfig /Release immediately let me set up a local account.

[–] StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Do you normally connect your machines to the internet during setup? Or is this solely without any connection?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Avoid it like the plague. Once you admit you have Internet, Microsoft never forgets.

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If that actually becomes a thing people do, that could prompt MS to start to require either submitting to a face scan or showing some government ID just to install Windows, though, if the way Google's handling KYC on YT if your account gets flagged as underage, and soon Android app dev, as well as KYC going out across other sites, is any indication.

I'm pretty sure having to KYC just to install an OS is the last thing people want right now.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Let them. The entire world is slowly migrating to Mac and Linux. I haven't even had the option of windows at my last 3 jobs. (To be fair, I've never had the option of desktop Linux, but this last one said pick a computer—I'm not positive that they would've balked at Linux.) That said, idk what's so great about Mac over Linux, but I guess it's not corporate friendly.

I'm trying to think of which MS products we even have in our ecosystem. Office, I guess. Corporate world will never wean themselves off of Excel.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

The entire world is slowly migrating to Mac and Linux.

have a look at the steam hardware survey results or basically any other statistics and see that it's not the case.

[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

“The entire world” lol. I applaud your optimism.

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if they just ask your age as step 1 of the setup?

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

Same thing, that doesn't change anything.