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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I think it's more about repair ability than it is about upgrading. At some point you're going to end up with hardware that needs a different motherboard and then you might as well just replace the whole thing. There really isn't anything that can be done about that.

To be honest I kind of think framework go a bit far on the modularity of the device, it's a nice to have but really I'd be perfectly fine with a laptop that just has a replaceable keyboard, screen and battery, as those pretty much exclusively tend to be the parts that go wrong. Hell you could strip it down even further and just have an easily replaceable battery and it would probably be fine for 90% of people.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hell no, I love that I can just upgrade to a better Mainboard in a couple years

Why would I also ditch all the other components because of a CPU change?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean I assume it's because you wouldn't in fact be able to get constant upgrade you'd end up being limited by socket design and things.

There has already been at least one incompatible motherboard upgrade. Essentially a whole new line of framework laptops.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago

Yup, I'm not s huge fan of the FW12 because of the 3rd format they now have to maintain

But the Mainboard of 12, 13 and 16 are all interchangeable inside their model line

You're not really limited by socket design, as you change out the whole motherboard

The only limit is the physical size inside the case. And maybe thermals

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