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[–] TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The point was to sign AI footage so you know what's fake. NFTs can be used as a decentralized repository of signatures. You could realistically require the companies to participate, but the idea doesn't work because you can edit footage so it doesn't match the signature. More robust signatures exist, but none is good enough, especially since the repo would have to be public.

Signing real footage makes even less sense. You'd have to trust everybody and their uncle's signature.

[–] dragonfly4933@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The signing keys could be published to DNS, for better or worse.

[–] TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What would that solve? NFTs don't have to be powerhungry proof of work, that was just for the monkeys. The public ledger part of this is not the problem.

[–] dragonfly4933@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How can an organization prove that a given key is theirs using NFTs?

[–] TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

A digital signature works with public/private keys and content hashes. This is a solved problem.

In fact, it's part of secure DNS.

[–] dragonfly4933@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How does that answer my question, how do NFTs help an organization prove that a key belongs to them?

NFTs and blockchains are an entirely virtual construct that can't affect the real world, or take trusted, non-key inputs from the real world. That's not 100% true, but it is mostly true.

So really, you need a way to tie or bind a key to an identity or organization. You could perhaps sign some data, such as a domain name with a key on a chain, but that doesn't prove anything. Anyone could sign anything with any key, so you need to approach the problem from the other direction.

You can install the key directly, or the hash of the key into DNS, verifiers can retrieve the key from DNS, then resolve it to the full key if necessary. You can then use the key to verify signatures of signed data.

Why DNS? Because that is currently the most standard way to identify organizations on the internet. Also, much of the security of the internet is directly bound to DNS. For example, getting certificates for websites often entails changing a DNS record at the request of an issuer to prove that you own the domain in question.

This is not an idea I invented just now, there are multiple DNS record types that have been defined for literally decades at this point which allow an organization to publish keys to DNS. Among the first is this: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2535#section-3 Not completely related, but it is a key of some kind published to DNS.

I don't think NFTs provide any useful functionality in helping organizations prove that a key is theirs, at least nothing much better than a simpler solution which already exists.

[–] TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's kind of besides the point. Yes they don't add anything unique and yes it was most likely because if hype, but NFTs is just what they used in the wip to store the signatures on, but the core principle is flawed no matter what you put it on.

Sorry I thought you suggested DNS to solve the core issues.