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The imaginary money you invested in gold is worthless if civilization collapsed, so it's in the rich person's interests to keep things going so they can pull that investment back.
It's more likely we are heading to another US recession, hopefully not as bad as the 1930s
I'm sorry, what? Gold has value regardless of if there's a government backing it or not. That's the entire point of investing in it, as a buffer for when fiat loses its value.
The value of gold lies in the fact that other men may be disposed to work their ass off in order to have some shiny things to gift to women in order to have sex. As you can imagine, the power of gold amongst married couples drastically decreases.
Besides this... History shows humans always gave value to gold. For some reason we got very used into associating gold with value. As such, it is probably something good to have if economy collapses. But it doesn't really matter if society collapsed.
Gold is supposed to represent something finite that's hard to dig out of the ground. It's like the antithesis of fiat currency that way. i think of it like a hedge against the dollar like with some cryptos. That said I only think US civilization would collapse while the rest of the world moves on or divvies up its corpse.
That is valid for many other resources: iron, silicon, carbon, carrots whatever. Gold has always been attributed some special value, throughout history. That is ok. I don't think US civilization is going to collapse, why would you think that?
Gold has always been valued because it has some important attributes that few, if any, other substances have.
It won't tarnish or oxidize, so it will look just as shiny and beautiful a thousand years from now.
It is extremely malleable, easily crafted into any shape. It can be hammered thin enough to be a foil, or drawn into a wire as thin as a human hair.
It has a relatively low melting point, making it easy to cast.
It is extremely conductive, and is the conductive material of choice when price is no object.
There are other unique properties, but the point is that much of Gold's value derives from being significantly, even uniquely, different from most other substances, giving it an intrinsic value beyond its monetary value.
How many things relevant in your life are made out of gold? I guess jewellery, computer and phone. Real things that matter to people the most are completely unrelated to gold.
The fact that it is a material that does not degrade makes it a good choice as a vector for value. It is good to be used as money for that reason. If you use iron as money it will eventually rust out and leave you broke.
The other properties of gold are quite irrelevant to the fact that it has been selected (over and over again through history) as a value vector.
seeing as how it's used in corrosion-resistant connectors in things like planes' jet engines and transit systems, probably also in many of the electrical systems keeping every city on the planet running, I'd say that gold is quite important to society continuing to function.
My computer and my phone are preeeeeeeeeetty important to my life, though.
Indeed, that is out of question. The matter of discussion is that the value of gold is attributed and not intrinsic, since gold does not really cover any fundamental human need. Besides, gold is not strictly required to make computers.
I really don't know what you're talking about. I'm sorry, I am not American and I do not know who Bannon is. I hope full control of the media won't be a thing, but how is this related to gold?
Sorry, that post was an answer to a different question. I don't know how it dropped here.
... Which is why historically it is used as currency... kinda burying the lede there.
Bottle caps (fallout franchise), cigarettes, ramen packets (prison), sea shells (aka wampun in some Native American Cultures), salt (early scarcity) and gold are "valuable" because they are used as currency, where they are given value in excess of their actual ability to be used.
These attributes are not specific to gold alone, many other metals, jewels also share the same attributes of being able to used as currency due to their ease of division, relative scarcity and not rot aka "ability to store value" as the egg heads say.
Suffice to say, gold isn't valuable because it is gold (I can eat a ramen packets, smoke a cigarette) it isn't valuable because it is backed by. the government (we explicitly use it because it isn't fiat) but rather it is valuable because IT WAS MONEY, because carrying 500 cheese wheels isn't a thing irl.
I can point you to further reading, but just about all MacroEcon text books will cover this in the first chapter.
I was understand ALL of that, but the point is that Gold carries a significant value over and above its monetary value, and that's part of the reason that it has remained among the most desirable, and most popular, precious metals throughout history.
The very article linked to this post talks about civilizational collapse of the US similar to the Roman republic.
Gold as a unit of currency is only about 2500 years old. Prior to that it was used heavily in jewelry and adornments. Probably because it's not good for much else and it happens to be fantastic as a jewelry material. It's shiney, doesn't tarnish, and is easy to work with hand tools.
The association with wealth probably came about as a result of being associated with expensive jewelry.
To be clear, modern historians do not look for piles of gold to determine relatively how wealthy a society was. They look at their ability to produce grain and other things that facilitated trade. Because gold is only valuable as a mechanism to facilitate trade. To a civilization more worried about feeding itself than foreign luxuries, it's quite worthless.
I wonder if Kraft Macaroni would become the currency of the Greater Depression?
2500 years ago we didn't have computers and cell phones. We do now, and they all use gold.
They also use silicon, platinum, copper, iron, cobalt, and glass, what's your point?
I run a CNC mill every day that has aluminum wiring.
Gold is actually useful for things other than jewelry.
What other relevant uses does gold have? Which ones of those are relevant to sustaining life needs?
Edible gold to make life sustaining food into a luxury!
Oh yes, I heard of food with gold in it. Stuff like that really should be illegal in my opinion. That, or if you really want to do it, at least donade double the price to charity.
It's such a miniscule amount it's not really a big deal.
Talking in just modern times most any technology uses it. It's used in medicine as nanoparticles for biosensors and cancer treatment (photothermal therapy) as well as targeted medicine delivery. Pretty much all computers have gold wires in them due to it's conductive properties which sure isn't necessary for sustaining life technically but modern life, yes. It's been used in dentistry since like 1000 BC because of how inert it is, it's used in chemistry all over the place and material science which we rely on to use on all the previous fields. I could go on but I think the point is clear, gold has many many uses beyond just jewelry.
Sure, I'm a chemist. I know lots of these uses. I tell you, gold could completely disappear tomorrow and we'd barely feel the effects. Sure, some things would have to be reworked, but we'd be fine in a year.
Jup, many drugs have a market price similar to gold, so better invest into that, they can always be sold...
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