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[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (5 children)

These threads feel kinda redundant, all comments are just preaching to the choir.

Can anyone comment about anything besides "[...] switched to Linux [...]"?

[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What else do you expect everyone to do? Please enlighten us if you have something more to offer than switching to Linux — which seemingly is the best option currently.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not saying that you shouldn't, I am saying that there's more to discuss than "switched to Linux /thread".

For example let me just quote microsoft "The vision that we have is: let’s rewrite the entire operating system around AI, and build essentially what becomes truly the AI PC." and think about what that means for your workplace. Windows isn't going to vanish in a few years. The companies that have a lot of windows PCs will have to deal with increased hardware requirements in an already expensive market, have to wrangle user settings that the ai set on voice commands or fight against Microsoft to shut it all down.

I feel like there's going to be a lot of wasted productivity in the coming years spend on fixing what ai broke.

[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Business owners can form association and apply pressure. E.g. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/news-windows-10-security-updates-european-economic-area-customers/

If you're an employee, why give a damn..

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The free extended updates are only for private consumers, companies don't get them.

The consumer ESU program can’t be used by commercial devices.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/extended-security-updates

Most companies should've already switched over so afaict there wasn't enough push back.

I don't see how employees giving a damn is relevant to what I said, can you rephrase that?

[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 day ago

I wasn't pointing out that there are extended updates, I was pointing out that customer associations can apply pressure. That's the only way Microsoft can be limited from taking more and more profit share with increasingly enshittified products.

People are much more likely to use windows as employees, rather than business owners. So I don't think an average Lemmy user (lemmings?) will be interested in commenting anything seriously about it.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it's time for a class action lawsuit. But yes, you make a good point. Our state agency just got new PCs due to the ending of windows 10 support, and it sucks because I have no way to turn off the AI bullshit because I'm not an admin. As much as I enjoy now having a machine with bluetooth so I can use earbuds, I'd go back to my old work PC in a heartbeat.

[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Just saying, you might have a sympathetic IT department. Stuff like that I'm more than happy to come and disable.

Hell, there are one or two of my users I make administrators of their machines, along with the advice to not do anything I wouldn't do.

[–] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 2 points 2 days ago

I'm not that guy but there's ESU or windows 10 IoT.

[–] lukaro@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't they also push their new AI on customers? I don't use MacOS so I'm a bit ootl on that.

[–] lukaro@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

There are a few ai based tools offered, but nothing shoved in your face.

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There are several common refrains on Lemmy that many people find cathartic. If you don’t care to tell us about your preferred Linux distro again, maybe another thread will pop up soon about how streaming services are enshittified and you can tell us about what you’re self-hosting again.

[–] bless@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

I use arch btw

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I get wanting to tell people that you've switched from windows but these threads just feel too repetitive to be engaging, there's no interesting discussion when everyone is just repeating the same points every month.

There's also no discussion about the article or if there is then I couldn't find it because of all the switched to Linux comments.

Oh well, back to other threads...

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Just downvote. Downvotes don't mean you dislike them or think they're wrong, it just means you think the comment should have less visibility.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

windows 10 LTSC from massgrave.dev site for afew years, but that will come to an end too. after that if you hate yourself there are the BSDs, or you can install hackintosh too. but the linuxes are the most mature alternative that won't just fuck you over

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stay on 10 and force M$ to give further updates because of sheer popularity, just like they had to with XP

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Companies have already updated, new notebooks come with windows 11, it's sadly inevitable that most users will sooner or later be switched to windows 11.