this post was submitted on 27 Oct 2025
906 points (98.6% liked)
Technology
76415 readers
3174 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related news or articles.
- Be excellent to each other!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
- Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.
Approved Bots
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I don't understand why these devices need an internet connection?
To upload a map of your home duh
Some of these connect to a smartphone App through Wi-Fi. Connecting to internet and uploading stuff are not shown to the owner but might happen in the background.
We need bluetooth devices back, there's no reason for 99.999999% of devices to have your network password.
Exactly. Local connection. Why the fuck does it need access to some server somewhere? I am sorry... but if they have updates for their shit available they need different ways of making it available.
Also why the fuck does the company need audio recordings from your home? That is literally spy shit. And why does it need the layout? Even if they were doing it purely to improve their products and make them be able to work around confusing layouts and obstacles then that shit needs your full knowledge and consent... and you can withdraw consent at any time for any reason.
I am too tired to rant further.
100% agree.
Unless they artifically bloat their patch/update file sizes, I'd imagine sending it through your phone to the device over bluetooth would work fine.
I'd even, personally, prefer they use a wifi link directly between my phone and the device while it updates before I give it free access to my lan.
That sounds more reasonable. I mean driver updates for many items I used weren't mandatory or searched for by my computer. Not even my windows machine. I had to go on their website to download them.
Seriously, MQTT on your home server or router or whatever and let things talk to eachother THERE. Keep the conversation INSIDE the LAN. This cloud shit is all about building expensive, unnesscarry dependencies.
For a robot vacuum, wi-fi works best because you should be able to leave the phone in one room while the bot goes clean all the other ones. Bluetooth needs line of sight.
Never used a robot vacuum, but the idea is that you set it up once and never think about it, right?
So you'd set it up once with bluetooth, then disconnect and let it do its job.
Software updates could cause issues, though if they release a finished product it wouldn't need any or much of those if it works for you already. And updates can be managed over bluetooth.
On the smartphone App, I see a map of all the rooms, and while I sit on the couch, Wi-Fi allows me to watch the robot vacuum go through all the rooms. I suppose if it got stuck, I'd know where to find it. Not critically important, but kind of fun.
Because people are not taught the basics of Lan network vs Wan network and corporations love to exploit this.
During the aws outage i heard multiple people be upset with their isp because “the wifi is broken”
I worked in tech support for several years last decade... and the amount of people who tell me 'my Facebook isn't working' to mean their internet connection is bust is insane. And they aren't getting any smarter. Last time I worked tech support was in 2021 and I got fired when I nearly lost my shit with an American client who demanded to know why he couldn't enter a company store without a mask.