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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

The meme used a shitty comparison. The green bin program is one of the most effective and effecient waste reduction strategies. It reduces the distances garbage may have to travel, it reduces methane gas production, it reduces landfill use which extends landfill lifespans, and it creates clean enough compost to be used locally for decorative gardens and lawns.

Using something like don't buy that product, the government says its bad, meanwhile the government failing to regulate said product would have maybe been a better comparison.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

Not everything needs to be written out like you wrote for it to be understood for people who can read into context. It literally says "The government wants us to get this right" that is the crux of the message here. Nowhere in the meme does it say not to recycle or that recycling is bad, the juxtaposition is that no one is telling Meta to do anything but they are telling people to sort trash.

[–] malle_yeno@pawb.social 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I was about to say thanks for the free ableism, but you did edit that out, so kudos, I guess.

Anyway, I dont see those two messages as being hypocritical because these are two separate issues. The main benefit of residential waste diversion is to extend the life of landfills -- the climate benefits are secondary. Even if someone is a climate change denier, they should want waste sorting because landfills are expensive and their taxes would go up to build new ones.

The government asking you to sort your waste isnt an example of them failing to tackle the main actors of climate change. It's cities trying to mitigate a separate issue.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Most green bin programs are run by municipal governments. Big polluters are typically regulated by state/provincial governments or federal governments.

[–] malle_yeno@pawb.social 6 points 13 hours ago

I wanted to make that point too, but since the discourse is currently at the "I like pancakes. So you hate waffles?" stage, I didn't think we were ready to get into separation of responsibilities lol

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It absolutely and explicitly implies that recycling isn't worth bothering with because companies will fuck shit up anyways

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Recycling is necessary and putting band aids on your ouchy papercuts doesnt help shit while you have a cannonball exit wound in your chest.

When the billionaire class is dead and gone, it will matter.

Until then its onanistic victim blaming and I take offense.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Being in practice can only help. There is no downside to it

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, go nuts. But cardio and marksmanship would do more for the environment, if that's really what you care about.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm well aware. Unfortunately as ineffective as it is I'm not a practitioner of violence. I'm not going to take the life of another human being even if they deserve it

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Trolley problem, babe. Just with a lot more zeroes on one side.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm aware. I'm aware violence is more effective as a net result. Yet still stuck with the inability to do it, just like every person on here who espouses violence without action

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Not more effective. When one party hordes power and refuses to negotiate, and wants you to die or is committed to a course of action that will with certainty kill you ¹ there are two choices: violence and suicide.

I'm pretty okay with either option, but please dont pretend suicide is anything else. Like my natural apathy does tend to put me on team suicide, but people lying about it who start to panic when they can't lie to themselves anymore are really fucking up my chill.

¹lucky us; we get both

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world -2 points 13 hours ago

I interpret the meme as "theres no point doing this right because big corps aren't expected to do anything right". Either way i think there was a better way to get the message across.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Does the city your in put the green bin in a different place than the others?

Most places it's just different trucks headed to the same landfill.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Many cities process the organic waste at their landfill sites. They also often allow people to come buy the compost from the landfill.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Some do. Some just dump it like everything else.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Why would a city go through all the logistics of running a green cart collection just to toss it on the same pile of trash? Some loads may be too contaminated to be composted but the vast majority of cities collecting organics seperately will turn it into compost. Your city's website likely has more details about how their landfill and collections operate.

Because someone said they had to have a program and they just kind of did the bare minimum.

Because they meant well and hired a company to do it, and dumping was ehat they were set up to do.

Because they meant well, and then found out facilities didnt exist or there was a liability issue that made them skittish but the program had already been in campaign ads so constituents still had to see the bins, but the city would just be putting them wherever...