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Google pulls the plug on first and second gen Nest Thermostats (www.techspot.com)

submitted 3 days ago by spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Google announced the end of support for early Nest Thermostats in a support document earlier this year that largely flew under the radar. As of October 25, first and second generation units released in 2011 and 2012, respectively, will be unpaired and removed from the Google Nest or Google Home app.

Users will no longer be able to control their thermostats remotely via their smartphone, receive notifications, or change settings from a mobile device. End-of-support also disables third-party assistants and other cloud-based features including multi-device Eco mode and Nest Protect connectivity.

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[–] trailee@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This sort of thing is one of the reasons I chose a RainMachine irrigation controller over other options, because they specifically marketed their cloud-independent firmware design. It was vindicated a couple years ago when they started going defunct and grasped for recurring revenue by billing for proxied remote access, but even then they emphasized that everything else would continue to function without their servers.

The onus is on the consumer to reward cloud-independent designs like this. While it has been sad to see RainMachine’s collapse, my device indeed just keeps working. Hopefully it isn’t ultimately killed by firmware or app security vulnerabilities since it’s now thoroughly unmaintained.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The problem is, the real money is in either the data that it acquires or in recurring monthly costs.

Unfortunately, making a good, reliable product with no MRCs and no spying means fewer repeat buyers. Which is especially a problem for a niche community like selfhosters and privacy-conscious. You sell the product once and...that's it. Eventually the market is full and some people are upgrading but now your product is selling on the secondary market.

This is business in the 21st century. They can't survive without forced obsolescence, telemetry, and/or MRCs.

[–] trailee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think market saturation was RainMachine’s specific problem, but you’re right in general. Our capitalist dystopia demands infinite growth, and planned obsolescence is part of that.

They don’t make ‘em like they used to, whatever the consumer product in question. I have a few tools that belonged to my grandfather and they still work just fine, partially because there’s no plastic to crack and the bearings all accept either oil or grease.

You’re probably also right that selling user data to advertisers is now a reliable source of recurring revenue, which all the MBA C-suite people want at any cost, even the alienation of their customers. This timeline sucks.

What’s an MRC?

[–] cheesemoo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Monthly recurring costs (i.e. some kind of subscription service)