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...I could have told you that 🤷

Source: https://x.com/BriannaWu/status/1984574165643403370

Not my usual kind of source (Xitter), but I want any centrists out there who ask trans people to "just get along" / compromise with actual hate groups that want them eradicated to know that it doesn't work.

There is no such thing as a reasonable bigot, by definition.

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)

i like how she’s still worried about "our extreme ideas"

what extreme ideas??? that trans women should compete in women’s sports??? the extreme idea that trans women are women???

i’d say my most extreme idea is that trans kids should be able to start HRT when they (and their cis peers) start puberty. and that’s only an extreme idea if you believe that trans kids are less deserving of a normal puberty than cis kids.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I realize this isn't exactly the point of the thread but you offered the opinion so I assume you're OK with expanding on it. If not that's alright too.

How do you reconcile the ideas that children:

  1. Aren't mature enough to consent to sex
  2. Are mature enough to consent to permanently altering their bodies through HRT

To be clear, this isn't meant to be an antagonistic question in any way. I haven't given much thought to the topic and it seems like you have so I am interested in hearing your perspective.

[–] NessaSola@eviltoast.org 5 points 2 days ago

It works the same way that children approach other invasive medical interventions. If there's great harm and a costly intervention, then child, parents, and doctors work to decide if the intervention is appropriate. As a nice black and white example, it would be unthinkable to avoid giving a young leukemia patient chemotherapy where necessary.

Thus, the threat of harm has to be measured, and the danger of the treatment has to be measured. This happens. We understand that cases of gender dysphoria can cause real harm. These are only diagnosed when a child demonstrates a "persistent, insistent, and consistent" transgender identity. The doctors working with these children do the due diligence to ensure these are real cases with a strong need: the cases where we would be doing harm by failing to act.

Puberty blockers, despite unwarranted infamy, are excellent for buying a little time to ensure the proper judgement. These do not usually have permanent consequences. Other HRT treatments can be applied when we have high confidence that they are preventing harm. Again, that's pretty much like any other invasive pediatric treatment.

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