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ProtonMail Logged IP Address of French Activist; Should You Be Worried About Your Privacy? (beebom.com)
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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Here you go: https://proton.me/mail

Just scroll down. Each selling point is marked with title case text, followed by their reasoning.

Under the first one that mentions privacy ( Highest standards of privacy) it says:

Proton is incorporated and headquartered in Switzerland, meaning your data is protected by some of the world's strictest privacy laws.

The entirety of their reasoning behind their claim of “Highest standards of privacy”, right on their main landing page is based on the limitations of Swiss Law and literally nothing else. It even contains a link to a blog post where they go into detail on how Swiss Law affects what they can and can’t do lol.

Can you find me a way back machine link to their website where they told you that they aren’t subject to or otherwise do not comply with Swiss law?

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here you go: https://proton.me/mail

Just scroll down. Each selling point is marked with title case text, followed by their reasoning.

I don't find your earlier quote on that page anywhere.

Can you find me a way back machine link to their website where they told you that they aren’t subject to or otherwise do not comply with Swiss law?

Why would I do that? My claim is not that they ever said that explicitly, but that their marketing claimed 'your privacy came first' without any similar-size mention how it would be limited by Swiss law. It was not in their interest to explain that the Swiss courts can order them to track and shop French climate activists.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't find your earlier quote on that page anywhere.

Here’s a screenshot

My claim is not that they ever said that explicitly, but that their marketing claimed 'your privacy came first' without any similar-size mention how it would be limited by Swiss law.

Their marketing around privacy as it exists right now is extremely up front and detailed about the fact that it’s based on Swiss law. If you’re going to claim that at some point in time it didn’t, you’re going to have to show some kind of proof of that. I don’t recall any time in the last few years that they weren’t touting Swiss law as the very basis for their privacy claims.