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You can see the surveillance and self censorship by spending any amount of time on a Chinese app like Red Note.
Unlike western media, famously owned by altruistic people like sociopath Palantir collaborator Zuckerberg, or Twitter being owned by a literal sieg-heiling Nazi.
You can see the censorship by opening Russia Today in the EU and seeing how all Russian media has been banned, such freedom of speech and anti censorship in the west, threatening to ban Tiktok because it's not controlled by American corpos! Surely no censorship on Reddit either or YouTube!! It's literally all projection
Ah yes, the west is a shitshow, so that somehow makes anything China can do ok.
You are going to live under China, better do something to make sure we SURVIVE.
The original comment I responded to was comparing the west to China and saying that the reason why China shouldn't win is because it's more repressive. I explained how that's not the case, so me comparing to the west is relevant in this instance.
I dont quite understand your second paragraph, care to explain?
2nd paragraph: China has an industrial base that can no longer be competed with. This is the winning recipe, so they will likely control the world.
So how well all of humanity fares, depends on how the leadership in China decides to treat us. If we end up with say, a chinese Trump, we are done for. If we end up with some miracle in China where the leader is actually kind of benevolent, humanity has a shot.
We should invest everything we can into ensuring the later.
I fundamentally agree. I don't think it will be direct control, but I think China will have a lot more political power in the coming decades.
Seeing how China has no recent history of violence and hasn't participated in wars for the past 40ish years, I'd say it's much better than the warmongering USA empire self-declaring itself "the world police". We've seen how well that worked for Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, Libya, Vietnam, Korea, Laos, Cambodia...
Thankfully China has a communist party in government, and no fascist parties like the Republicans or the slightly less fascist Democrats.
Surely the warmongering and genocidal western countries, responsible for the almost total extermination of native Americans, the enslavement of Africa and Asia, and invaders during WW2 (biggest armed conflict in history) aren't the ones most indicated to make decisions in this regard.
It does not matter what system is in place, if bad people get into power. That is the key thing: preventing that from happening. This makes fighting injustice, and an emphasis on humanitarianism critical. If you get a sadist in power, or a tough guy that has darwinist-like beliefs, it's all over.
Whoever rules China in the age of technology will be god-king.
that still doesn't absolve what china does.
The original comment I responded to was saying "we don't want China to win because it's very repressive". If the west turns out to be at least as repressive, this argument disappears, which was my entire point.
no it doesnt, i don't want any of them to win.
Wow, you solved geopolitics! Now that you bravely exposed your point of view, both US and China will stop the AI race!
The post, and hence the comment to which I'm responding, is about China vs US. You may not like the comparisons I'm making because you love your status quo of western dominance, but they're entirely relevant to the post.