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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

leftism is defined by opposition to the status quo. the french monarchy was capitalist as well as the status quo at the time; we still have monarchies and capitalism is unquestionably the status quo.

[–] mattyroses@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

no, it's not. That would make fascism left wing, it is not.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

fascism is right wing and a big part of late stage capitalism.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

leftism is defined by opposition to the status quo

You've just introduced a whole other definition of leftism. Also it seems to mean that no leftist society could exist in practice.

the french monarchy was capitalist

From what I can figure out, it was still in principle feudal but moving towards capitalism due to the growth of the bourgeois class. Is that correct?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago

opposition to the status quo is the definition of leftism, but anyone can be forgiven for not understanding this since westerners define it in the same terms as classical liberalism due to monarchies still (barely) being the status quo back then (and still existing to this day); back then, liberalism was "left" of that.

now-a-days neo-liberalism is the dominant hegemony and it's pro-capitalist; anything to the left of that is modern day leftism.