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Why do so many services require email configuration? (piefed.social)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by artyom@piefed.social to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Recently I was locked out of my own Ghost blog platform because they decided they were going to add Email 2FA. I also cannot add any other authors because that requires email verification.

Today I was looking at installing Bonfire and came across this:

Bonfire requires working email for user signups, password resets, and notifications. Most installations will need email configuration before the instance is usable.

Setting up email is a pain in the ass, costs money, is dependent on 3rd parties, violates privacy, and is just completely unnecessary. Why wouldn't you give users the option to not use it? It's infuriating!

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[–] JASN_DE@feddit.org 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

XMPP? Matrix?

That's cute, but very much a bubble view. Usually not worth the effort unless the devs themselves are users.

Why do I need a messaging system in the first place?

You might not need one, but the majority of users want and/or need one for user management, password reset, notifications etc.

And it is being developed for the majority of users.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

the majority of users want and/or need one for user management

Is it too much to ask for self-hosted users/developers to use something slightly more modern, convenient, and easier to implement? Or to simply make it optional? As long as it's not even an option we're pretty much doomed to the dinosaur-era of internetting permanently.