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Why is the Republican party so content with denying healthcare as a human right, and trying everything they can to harm people who need any sort of assistance? Like.... How do they do it? How much are we talking here when we speak about tax savings for them?

Pretend I am rich? Like how much money am I getting back by Republicans kicking men off healthcare or destroying insurance for those who need it most. It must be alot right?

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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 99 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I'll just repost this comment I made on a similar question earlier: That would be because most wealthy people believe that they did something to "earn" their wealth and that poor people just need to work harder. They refuse to admit that their wealth is built off of the backs of others and a good amount of luck. This also explains a good chunk of Republican policy decisions.

Adding on to that: Republicans see the government as a zero sum entity. If they are paying money into it, they should be receiving an equivalent benefit. If someone else is receiving a benefit that they are not, that is unfair and is effectively equivalent to stealing, since that person doesn't pay as much into the system. The primary and largely singular motivation of the Republican party is to mold the government to only serve them and increase their "ROI" for their taxes. They do not care about the societal good that social programs do, nor about the massive boon that these programs typically are for the economy in the long run. They care that the poors are getting something that they didn't work for because they perceive themselves as paying for it personally.

Tl;dr: republicans are selfish myopic people that are absurdly bad at cost benefit analysis

[–] danielton1@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Seriously. I hear a lot from the right that public transit, bike routes, and social programs need to be profitable or they shouldn't exist. With no mention of the roads they drive on every day.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

With no mention of the roads they drive on every day.

They want toll roads too...

When you have a shit ton of money, you want everything taxed on use, not earnings.

Because you earn a lot and spend a very small percentage of that.

They view any individual that "gets" more than they personally pay in as a "taker". Despite the entire reasons we have safety nets is statistically someone will need help.

But once no one anywhere benefits from it more than they paid in, it's easy for the wealthy to convince us we don't need it at all. Because it's not benefiting anyone and has really becomes a waste.

It's very basic manipulation.

You can't argue "what about roads!" Because they're argue for toll roads everywhere or a tax on actual miles driven. Don't let them set the argument, point out how no one knows who will need it till they need it, so we all pay in and hope we're fortunate enough to not need it. But if we do, we don't have to die in a gutter.

Don't tug on heart strings, explain it as risk management and they might start to see the value

[–] danielton1@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Nah, every conservative I know hates toll roads with a passion. They want the roads to be taxpayer-funded because that's what they use as an upstanding member of society, while social programs and public transit should be profitable or shut down because those are for the poors who need to get their act together.

Basically, they think everything conservatives and billionaires rely on should be taxpayer-funded, while everything they don't need is "for the poors" and needs to either turn a profit or be cut.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I mean, basically everyone hates toll roads, including me. And I think toll roads are a good idea! People just don't like paying for things they arent used to paying for.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Roads (not streets) should absolutely be tolled. And adding onto this, any given piece of property should be required to pay the full burden of the infrastructure maintenance required to serve it. The failure to impose appropriate costs like these is a big part of why many areas see rampant suburban sprawl and car dependency: when using the roads is free, you are incentivized to use the free resource as much as possible.

The same thing would happen if the government said they were giving out unlimited free flour to everyone. Everyone would start using flour as much as possible for as many things as possible (cue Tiktoks explaining how to use flour as makeup, or how to use flour to patch drywall), and you would have to stand in line forever in order to carry away your big armloads of flour, and hope the government flour depot didn't run out before you got there.

And that's what happens with untolled roads. Sitting in traffic is you waiting in line to recieve the underpriced resource of road access. What we actually want is the ability of people to transport themselves from point A to point B quickly, effectively, and affordably, and the solution to that is transit.

Toll roads, then exempt busses from the tolls.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yes to all this, but I think there is also a lot of psychopathy and innate cruelty. "Hurting people is fun!" types. You know the ones who started out as kids hurting animals and graduated to humans, but found that under the guise of "conservatism" they could do it openly and legally while fulfilling their urges.

[–] Marthirial@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

Nah, that's what we say out loud because even though is wrong, it is not racist wrong.

America is a caste system, like in India where we all are assigned to a caste level we cannot escape. Whites, even poor ones are going to always be at the top and blacks, even rich ones, always at the bottom.

But we cannot say that out loud, so instead Whites, from the lowest form like MAGA all the way to educated ones, use terms like equity and what one or another group deserves, etc.

Republicans (mostly white and some wannabes) believe they deserve the benefits of society first and everybody else by rank of color the rest.

They don't hate all poor people, only the ones in the wrong color.